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Originally posted by Ory A melody does not equal feeling. Especially when no effort is put into the production.

ok true, but if you have a good melody where effort has been put into the production, then you got feeling, people feel it and are affected by it, the music you listen to isnt the only music that has had effort put into it.

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Originally posted by Mike_Foyle it just annoys me the way you use it in the same way that i would to tell off my kid!

Please pass my severe condolances onto the aforementioned kid and any lady who's had your seeds





and back onto the point, I'd rather address people personally than 'oi wankface' or 'shitbreak' etc, if that's so wrong then dress me up in panties and call me mary

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Originally posted by Mike_Foyle ok true, but if you have a good melody where effort has been put into the production, then you got feeling, people feel it and are affected by it, the music you listen to isnt the only music that has had effort put into it.

Yeah, if it has a supersaw, it has to be a great production. All those saw waves... wow, must be something!

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike If I wanted to listen to a DJ bang out shit as weak sounding as Andy Moor / Markus Schulz etc. i'd go listen to Armin van Buuren. Nothing fucks me off more than a fan that thinks a DJ can do no wrong. There is a lot of good music out there. How some people can be so easily pleased is beyond my comprehension.

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Originally posted by m0sh Some of you just care too much... Just listen to the music...`

the reason i care so much, is because alot of people would consider some of my older music as "mc prog" or whatever, and say that no effort has been put into it and its made for money and that it has no feeling. But i know whats gone into it, and i havnt just made it for money, and it PISSES me right off that people think that it is, when they have absolutely nothing to base it on other than the fact that it was played on ASOT

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Originally posted by Ory Yeah, if it has a supersaw, it has to be a great production. All those saw waves... wow, must be something!

who said anything about a supersaw? supersaws are popular because that particular sound is very powerful and can be used to rip melodies right through you! Not all ASOT trance is fucking supersaws

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Originally posted by Mike_Foyle the reason i care so much, is because alot of people would consider some of my older music as "mc prog" or whatever, and say that no effort has been put into it and its made for money and that it has no feeling. But i know whats gone into it, and i havnt just made it for money, and it PISSES me right off that people think that it is, when they have absolutely nothing to base it on other than the fact that it was played on ASOT

Don't worry, I believe you, and I respect that. But too much McProg... well, it's gotten to me.

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike If I wanted to listen to a DJ bang out shit as weak sounding as Andy Moor / Markus Schulz etc. i'd go listen to Armin van Buuren. Nothing fucks me off more than a fan that thinks a DJ can do no wrong. There is a lot of good music out there. How some people can be so easily pleased is beyond my comprehension.

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Originally posted by Mike_Foyle who said anything about a supersaw? supersaws are popular because that particular sound is very powerful and can be used to rip melodies right through you! Not all ASOT trance is fucking supersaws

If it's not a supersaw, it's another stereotype that makes people look down on trance.

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike If I wanted to listen to a DJ bang out shit as weak sounding as Andy Moor / Markus Schulz etc. i'd go listen to Armin van Buuren. Nothing fucks me off more than a fan that thinks a DJ can do no wrong. There is a lot of good music out there. How some people can be so easily pleased is beyond my comprehension.

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Originally posted by Ory Don't worry, I believe you, and I respect that. But too much McProg... well, it's gotten to me.

ok well thats at least a start. i honestly didnt expect to hear that from you. thanks

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Originally posted by Ory If it's not a supersaw, it's another stereotype that makes people look down on trance.

another stereotype sure maybe, but like i keep saying, originality isnt the only thing that matters, if a sound is used over and over, its because it serves its purpose well, and although you might not accept this, melodies do play a huge part in the mood of any piece of music, sure its not the only thing that counts, but if you have a good melody (which admittidly is hard to come by these days) and then something powerful like a supersaw to deliver it, then you are going to end up with a piece of music FULL of soul and feeling, which can really touch people.

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Originally posted by Mike_Foyle another stereotype sure maybe, but like i keep saying, originality isnt the only thing that matters, if a sound is used over and over, its because it serves its purpose well, and although you might not accept this, melodies do play a huge part in the mood of any piece of music, sure its not the only thing that counts, but if you have a good melody (which admittidly is hard to come by these days) and then something powerful like a supersaw to deliver it, then you are going to end up with a piece of music FULL of soul and feeling, which can really touch people.

I haven't heard a good trance melody for quite some time.

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike If I wanted to listen to a DJ bang out shit as weak sounding as Andy Moor / Markus Schulz etc. i'd go listen to Armin van Buuren. Nothing fucks me off more than a fan that thinks a DJ can do no wrong. There is a lot of good music out there. How some people can be so easily pleased is beyond my comprehension.

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Originally posted by Ory I haven't heard a good trance melody for quite some time.

fair enough, ive heard the odd one here and there, and while they still use that classic supersaw, which yes, has been used a fuck load, no matter how many times u use it, with a new melody you have a new mood. its not all about the sounds, and not all asot trance is supersaws like i said. Take someone like Derek Howell, sure, from what ive heard, its full of feeling, can be some really soulful stuff, but i couldnt listen to it unless i was in a certain relaxed, mellowed out mood. if i wanted to go out and jump around it simply wouldnt do it for me. but different music is suited to different atmospheres and different moods, times, seasons, and DIFFERENT PEOPLE. dont you agree?

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