well obviously because its not illegal to smoke it... yet

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Originally posted by Jayx1 OK then you are advocating lowering the age? I agree with that. If you are old enough to drive a car, die for your country, and vote then you should be able to smoke and drink. Lower the age to 18!

well i really dont care if they lower or raise the age, but it doesnt sense if the govt bans sales of ciggareets to those under 19 and not charge them when they are smoking it. they should just get rid of the law and shopkeepers shouldtn demand id. or, they can stop the minors from smoking if they keep the "no sales" law in effect. i hope you get what i mean.

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Originally posted by malek well obviously because its not illegal to smoke it... yet

ok so then why is it illegal to buy it? i dont get that, lol.

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Originally posted by djshan well i really dont care if they lower or raise the age, but it doesnt sense if the govt bans sales of ciggareets to those under 19 and not charge them when they are smoking it. they should just get rid of the law and shopkeepers shouldtn demand id. or, they can stop the minors from smoking if they keep the "no sales" law in effect. i hope you get what i mean.

I understand but i think the cops have better things to do with their time and if they dont we need fewer cops.

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

sorry but that would be outrageous...

would you accept that your kids can go to the local store and buy beer if they're 14???

ITS NOT ILLEGAL to drink beer, but would you let kids go and buy it?

same applies to cigarettes.

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Originally posted by malek sorry but that would be outrageous... would you accept that your kids can go to the local store and buy beer if they're 14??? ITS NOT ILLEGAL to drink beer, but would you let kids go and buy it? same applies to cigarettes.

well i kind of agree, but remeber, you cant stop kids from everything, otherwise they will try to find their own ways, which is no good.

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Originally posted by djshan well i kind of agree, but remeber, you cant stop kids from everything, otherwise they will try to find their own ways, which is no good.

so is it better to do nothing? and give full access to alcohol and cigarettes? while we're at it, let them go rent xxx movies and get in strip clubs and nightclubs.

I don't think so.

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Originally posted by malek sorry but that would be outrageous... would you accept that your kids can go to the local store and buy beer if they're 14??? ITS NOT ILLEGAL to drink beer, but would you let kids go and buy it? same applies to cigarettes.

Kids do it anyways. Restricting them makes it even more taboo and makes kids want it even more. I think a sensible approach to kids with smokes and booze is a better way to go. Introduce them to it gradually and teach them responsibilty. As it is now, you reach a magic artifical number and boom you go from allowing nothing to everything. The results are that North Americans abuse alcohol like mad.

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Originally posted by malek so is it better to do nothing? and give full access to alcohol and cigarettes? while we're at it, let them go rent xxx movies and get in strip clubs and nightclubs. I don't think so.

well i just think if their gonna ban sales, they should ban the product (possession) too.

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Originally posted by djshan well i just think if their gonna ban sales, they should ban the product (possession) too.

So the cops can pull up to a group of smokers and demand everyone produce ID? I hope not!

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Originally posted by Jayx1 So the cops can pull up to a group of smokers and demand everyone produce ID? I hope not!

ok, and what about if they are drunk, or have been drinking? i think thats the same with smoking, is it not?

only tota could turn this canadian thread into yet another flame war!

Apparently Canada is about wasting swampers bandwitdth

and diginut , sounds like you need a new dealer.