Rio Karma is the best ,,,

1) highest quality audio ... hands down i've compared it to iPod and every single review I have ever read rates it number 1 in this catagory and when it comes to audio devices this is the be all end all of what your buying decision is based on
2) best looking design also the smallest so it's very portable
3) great software
4) compatible with more formats than any other player
5) i only have to recharge the battery once a week and I listen to it often

Ok, im tired of hearing people praise products which clearly arent the best. The sony pwns....thats that.

And new MDs are around the corner:

Sony MZ-RH10





High res shot: http://www.minidisc.org/images/Sony_MZRH10.jpg

# HI-MD WALKMAN with large Organic EL Display
# MP3 / Atrac3plus direct playback <---FINALLY!!!
# SonicStage for easy music management and unlimited check outs of your favourite tracks
# Supports all popular digital audio compression formats: ATRAC / MP3 / WMA / WAV
# New type remote control
# Record from multiple source: USB-in / Mic-in / Analogue-in / Digital-in
# Extremely fast music transfer from and to PC: 1 CD in less than 40 seconds
# Capable of storing audio, video and data files on your HI-MD disc (Word, Powerpoint, ATRAC, MP3, JPEG, MPEG, etc)
# Incl. Charging stand, AC Power Adpater
# Long battery life of 32 hours On a Removable Nimh gumstick!!!!
# G-PROTECTION Jog Proof
# Transfer up to 45 CDs onto a single 1GB Hi-MD disc (with Atrac3Plus compression).


Sony MZ-DHP10









Features:

* Includes built-in 1.3Mpixel camera (1280x960) with 4x digital zoom
* Built-in 1.5 inch color TFT LCD screen
* Slide-show mode allows pictures to be synced to music
* Stored photos can be moved or deleted
* Plays back MP3 files
* High Definition Digital amp
* USB bus powered
* Jog-dial

Markets: US, Europe

Manufacturer's Feature List:

* HI-MD WALKMAN with large Organic EL Display
* MP3 / Atrac3plus direct playback
* SonicStage for easy music management and unlimited check outs of your favourite tracks
* Supports all popular digital audio compression formats: ATRAC / MP3 / WMA / WAV
* New type remote control
* Record from multiple source: USB-in / Mic-in / Analogue-in / Digital-in
* Extremely fast music transfer from and to PC: 1 CD in less than 40 seconds
* Capable of storing audio, video and data files on your HI-MD disc (Word, Powerpoint, ATRAC, MP3, JPEG, MPEG, etc)
* Incl. Charging stand, AC Power Adpater
* Long battery life of 32 hours
* G-PROTECTION Jog Proof
* Transfer up to 45 CDs onto a single 1GB Hi-MD disc (with Atrac3Plus compression).

And, for those of you who were stupid enough to buy an ipod shuffle:

Sony NWE505







Specs:

512 or 1gb Capacity
50 HOURS OF PLAYBACK ON ONE CHARGE
LCD Screen (unlike shitty ipod shuffle)
FM Radio
About the size of a cigarette lighter.

More info: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/produc...h-players_x.htm

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Buying trance is a lot like buying a car. Don`t buy American.

Gimme a Walkman where I can plug in my 1G geek stick and play it and then we'll talk...
That's about the tits if you ask me.


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Above and Beyond pres Tranquility - Surrender (Filterheadz Mix)

iAudio also has a nice MP3 player that puts the ipods to shame:

iAudio G3 with 50 hour battery life and EQ settings, plus MUCH more:

Specifications





Playback format MPEG 1/2/2.5 layer 3 (8Kbps ~ 320Kbps) (8kHz ~ 48kHz) and VBR
All ranges of WMA7 WMA (20Kbps ~ 192Kbps) (8kHz ~ 48kHz)
WMA9 CBR(5Kbps Mono ~ 320Kbps Stereo)
VBR(48Kbps ~ 256Kbps)
* WMA9 Pro, Lossless and Voice Codec not supported.
OGG (Currently support up to Q8)
WAV (Up to 44.1Khz Stereo)
Memory 256MB/512MB/1GB*
PC interface
USB 2.0 (Up to 20Mbps)
Battery
AA battery X 1
Power
Play up to 50 hours, based on company's self-test
Buttons 8 buttons (Play, REC, MODE, Menu, FF, REW, VOL+, VOL-)
Switch 1 switch (Hold)
Display 128 X 64 full graphic LCD
SNR 95 dB
Max Output 16 Ohm earphone : 13mW + 13mW
Frequency Range 20Hz ~ 20KHz
Size 2.52 X 1.77 X 0.67 inch (64.0 X 45.0 X 17.10 mm)
Weight 1.27 oz (without battery)


More info: http://www.jetaudio.com/products/iaudio/g3/index.html

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dont forget about creative labs..they have the best sound......i choose iriver cuase of 2 things

1.ogg support
2. plug and play.

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i didnt read the entire thread, but all that i'll add is that for those that say the iriver plays movies...its at 10fps....and i'll take my 3g 10 gig ipod over most any mp3 player, there is a lot to be said about having the easiest to use menus in the business. i sell these things for a living, and nobody in my store has yet figured out how to access and use everything on the iriver....that says a lot when its a store full of nerds.

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y anyone would buy a 300$ sony minidisc over a Rio which costs the same w/ better sound quality and 20 gig storage is beyond me

minidiscs are the Betamax of the 1990s

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Originally posted by Hedron y anyone would buy a 300$ sony minidisc over a Rio which costs the same w/ better sound quality and 20 gig storage is beyond me minidiscs are the Betamax of the 1990s

because MD ACTUALLY has exceptional sound quality, that exceeds the Rio (dont even THINK about arguing over that, MD's quality is superior to everything out ther, hands down) and now that MD supports MP3 completely, its even more capable of producing good sound.

also, removable battery that costs 10 bucks whch lasts 30 hours on one charge. why wouldnt you want that?

and lastly NOONE will ever need 20gb on the go, EVER. To say such a thing is complete idiocy. No battery in the world in the consumer market will last long enough to play even HALF of the songs uve got.

With MD u got removable media, 1GB per disc, which is plenty, and if u tell me it isnt, your being greedy and making pointless arguements, youll never go through more then 3 gigs of music in a week.

Oh yeah, MD also acts as a storage device.....

And for people in the recording industry, MD as a portable unity in its size has the best sound quality.

I could go on, beleive me, i could....

Some people are just sheep and buy into ipods, but ill agree, rio karma is good, but outdated these days.

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quote:

Originally posted by kamil and lastly NOONE will ever need 20gb on the go, EVER. To say such a thing is complete idiocy. No battery in the world in the consumer market will last long enough to play even HALF of the songs uve got.

I need more than 20 GB on the go









I just wouldn't buy on ipod

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[11:58] Bas //: fuck he's hot

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Originally posted by Hedron minidiscs are the Betamax of the 1990s

so true

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[11:58] Bas //: fuck he's hot

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Originally posted by verndogs so true

checkout the New MDs i posted, obviously some people arent reading......

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I don't like removable media it's a pain to lug around ... I can put my entire mp3 collection on my Rio ... I would have to lug around 20+ minidiscs to do that ... as for music quality .. well that's debatable as you would have to increase the size each song takes on the disc whether it's a HDD or minidisc ... but the Rio is top of the line as far as music quality as HDD jukeboxes go, and I sincerely doubt that anyone could tell the difference, so I would assume they are equal in that dept

if you combine my Rio with my Audio-Technica A500s ... you don't get better than that as far as listening to trance .. the detail, the highs/mids .. effin sweet... not too hot for rock but .. lol .. this ain't a rock forum so I don't think anyone will care about that, including myself