But still, as I said before, trance producers are aware of that, so they throw together the most pompous and obvious melodies to make the listener feel the way they feel. It's so shallow.

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike If I wanted to listen to a DJ bang out shit as weak sounding as Andy Moor / Markus Schulz etc. i'd go listen to Armin van Buuren. Nothing fucks me off more than a fan that thinks a DJ can do no wrong. There is a lot of good music out there. How some people can be so easily pleased is beyond my comprehension.

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Originally posted by Jake Conlon Ory you are completely wrong. Britney Spears and 50 Cent pump out rubbish to milk money from 12 year olds, there is no love in there music. trance may use the big breakdowns, but that is part of trance. Its like saying the rock fraternity should stop playing guitars as there is no love in it anymore, or ballerinas should stop wearing pink because the colour is so last century.

Listen to any of the stuff from the old Eye Q/Harthouse era, and let me know when you find stuff that uses big time melodic breakdowns like Rank 1 - Airwave. Huge breakdowns with big, simple riffs only became a part of trance when producers saw the instant impact it had on the audience. It was never a part of trance like guitars for rock or pink dresses for ballerinas.

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Originally posted by Sand Leaper Listen to any of the stuff from the old Eye Q/Harthouse era, and let me know when you find stuff that uses big time melodic breakdowns like Rank 1 - Airwave. Huge breakdowns with big, simple riffs only became a part of trance when producers saw the instant impact it had on the audience. It was never a part of trance like guitars for rock or pink dresses for ballerinas.

That's true, too. Hypnotic borderline techno is what trance originally sounded like. Even alot of the stuff Oakenfold played in '99 isn't epic trance.

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike If I wanted to listen to a DJ bang out shit as weak sounding as Andy Moor / Markus Schulz etc. i'd go listen to Armin van Buuren. Nothing fucks me off more than a fan that thinks a DJ can do no wrong. There is a lot of good music out there. How some people can be so easily pleased is beyond my comprehension.

Because breakdowns are brillaint when your dancing, the it drops and you get that tingle all over your body.

Same with techno the repetativeness makes it great i dont give a fuck im gonna forget all my troubles style.

basically as ive said in another post and in my sig.

Who Gives A Fook, Just Dance.

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Originally posted by Jake Conlon Because breakdowns are brillaint when your dancing, the it drops and you get that tingle all over your body.

Not when you have to stop dancing every 5 minutes.

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Originally posted by Jake Conlon Who Gives A Fook, Just Dance.

Except ASOT kiddies don't.

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike If I wanted to listen to a DJ bang out shit as weak sounding as Andy Moor / Markus Schulz etc. i'd go listen to Armin van Buuren. Nothing fucks me off more than a fan that thinks a DJ can do no wrong. There is a lot of good music out there. How some people can be so easily pleased is beyond my comprehension.

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Originally posted by Sand Leaper Not when you have to stop dancing every 5 minutes.

4 anthems in a 2 hour set would be a good amount... but the DJs don't want to disappoint the spoilt brats in the crowd, now do they? Yes, I know, I'm starting to sound alot like Ishkur.

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike If I wanted to listen to a DJ bang out shit as weak sounding as Andy Moor / Markus Schulz etc. i'd go listen to Armin van Buuren. Nothing fucks me off more than a fan that thinks a DJ can do no wrong. There is a lot of good music out there. How some people can be so easily pleased is beyond my comprehension.

it may be that im completly unfit (not in a fat bastard way)

but when im out clubbing, most of the music is pithed up (i.e. 140bpm running at 150bpm) someitmes i get so knackered from dancing to some techno or techy trancey stuff that i hope the dj plays something with a little breakdown or vice versa.

but its your opinion so i aint gonna flame you for not likeing breakdowns.

i get bored of em sometimes

theres nothing better than a nice groove.

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Originally posted by Jake Conlon it may be that im completly unfit (not in a fat bastard way) but when im out clubbing, most of the music is pithed up (i.e. 145bpm running at 150bpm) someitmes i get so knackered from dancing to some techno or techy trancey stuff that i hope the dj plays something with a little breakdown or vice versa. but its your opinion so i aint gonna flame you for not likeing breakdowns. i get bored of em sometimes

It's not that, just when trance producers keep using it in every single release cos of the instant catchyness it has, it pretty much fucks up the whole point, namely to create suspense and release it all at the right points in time. Huge buildups with breakdowns that cause you to stop dancing for another 2-3 minutes twice per record ruins every chance of that happening.

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I have read on/off in this thread and it's really funny seeing two ignorant fools trying to impose their bullshit propaganda over one another in absurdly radical ways. You're both perpetrating culprits in this situation.

Get a life!

Only 64 replies to this thread on the first day?

Back in the good ol days (i.e. twice a week, every week for the last 3 months) threads like this would get at least 100 of em on day 1.

Don't worry, I will monitor the situation closely. I have programmed a macro in excell which I use to perform trend analysis of this situation. If at any time one of these threads dips below 40 replies on its first day I will intervene on everyone's behalf.

In the meantime I would like to thank Ceberus (i.e. Ory, Ian and Cobalt) for its continued participation. Without its constant willingness to tag these threads with its likeness well I just can't imagine. No doubt it must drink a lot of coffee (feel free to substitue coffee with the diuretic of your choise)

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