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josh4
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Blair's Fortunes Bolstered by Opposition

By ED JOHNSON, Associated Press WriterSat Apr 30, 4:41 PM ET

He's loathed by sections of his own party, has been heckled by voters and accused of lying over the Iraq war. Yet Prime Minister Tony Blair heads into the final days of Britain's election campaign leading the polls — thanks in part to alienated Labour Party stalwarts who will hold their noses and vote for him anyway.

The war opponents nonetheless value the Labour government's increased spending on education and health; some disappointed by the party's shift to the center simply see no attractive alternative in the vote on May 5.

Blair's fortunes have also been bolstered by the unpopularity of the main opposition Conservatives, who dominated British politics for most of the 20th century. Under Margaret Thatcher, who championed individual initiative and the free market, the party commanded was unassailable.

But throughout the 1990s its popularity slipped, because of an unpopular new local tax, internal feuding over European integration, an economic recession and repeated sleaze scandals.

"I don't like him, but there is no one better to take his place," said David Server, 44, working at his fruit stall in central London. "He doesn't tell his own party what he is doing, let alone anybody else. But we haven't got an alternative."

Blair's credibility has been badly dented by the war and accusations that his government exaggerated the threat posed by Saddam Hussein. In recent days he has been buffeted by renewed questions about the legality of the Iraq war.

Blair has transformed the socialist Labour Party, broadening its appeal to the middle classes and big business. Since Labour won the first of two landslides in 1997, the Conservatives have struggled to find a message and a leader to recover lost ground.

Michael Howard, the third Conservative leader since 1997, took the helm 18 months ago and has enforced discipline in a party which had indulged in public feuding.

Labour's "forward not back" slogan is intended to remind voters that Howard was a prominent member of the government they decisively rejected in 1997. The approach appears to have damaged Howard.

"I just don't think as a leader he is imposing enough," said Toby Bowers, 28, who says he's disillusioned with Labour but cannot bring himself to vote Conservative.

"This is the gritted teeth election," said professor Steve Reicher at St. Andrews University. "People are thinking, what choice do I have? They think, 'I don't like what Blair has done, but I don't like Howard.'"

Some Labour candidates have flaunted their opposition to Blair; even more have pointedly omitted his picture from their campaign literature. But every Labour candidate wants to win, and each Labour victory will build toward the majority needed to keep Blair in office.

Blair has long been unpopular with left wing of his party, which was unhappy with his shift to the right but willing to embrace him as a winner.

"Iraq is a big issue and it is so big that some people won't vote," said former Labour lawmaker Alice Mahon, a vehement critic of the war and Blair. "I am still going round asking people to vote Labour. There is a lot to defend," she added.

She cited his accomplishments as high employment, the minimum wage law legislated by his government and a new hospital in her area.

Robin Cook, who resigned from Blair's cabinet in opposition to the war, wrote in The Guardian newspaper that an acquaintance "seethes at the very mention of Iraq but is resolved to vote Labour because of parents whose lives have been transformed by (a) pension credit" of the equivalent of $85 a week.

Labour's fear is that disaffected supporters will either stay at home or switch allegiance to the Liberal Democrats, the only major party to oppose the war.

"If people drift off, and either stay at home or vote Liberal Democrat ... the result will be not that they remove the difficulties, problems, or disappointments that they have had with this government; they actually end up with a Conservative government that will remove the very things they want to keep," Blair said on Friday.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050430...rites&printer=1

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Jackson
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Blair seems very reluctant to go into depth on the Iraq crisis..... Do you think Bush lied to him about there being WMD or was Blair in on it too?


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josh4
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he knew what he was doing

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So, tomorrow is it...

btw, dont you think you need a new election system?!

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So, tomorrow is it...

btw, dont you think you need a new election system?!
is there a single country out there with a great one?

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is there a single country out there with a great one?


Yes, but eg the US's and the UK's are pretty bad imo, cause they make people do tactical votes instead of what they really want...

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Yes, but eg the US's and the UK's are pretty bad imo, cause they make people do tactical votes instead of what they really want...

Well I'll let you tomorrow if there some big goon forcing me to vote for someone I dont want too!

But there are 'tactical voting' but its not forced - its the lesser of two evils (ie, if you aren't going to vote, but the BNP or the Conservatives are standing in your constituency, then you must go out an vote!)

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Bloody hell! Just got back from the polling booth and they had a UN election monitoring team from Georgia to make sure nothing funny was going on!!!

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I'll see if there are any when i go to vote tonight. This will be my first time ever as i only turned 18 in August.


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i shall be voting lib dems in about half an hour.

out of the three they seem to be the most sensible...good green policies, sensible wealth distribution ideas, sensitive immigration policies, keeping us in EU, liberal outlook to foreign policy

labour lost my vote beacause, although on refelection i think Blair did a pretty good job with Iraq, the health system, pensions are fucked so id like to see if lib dems could do any better. was a close call beteen labour and libe dems for me, labour have done some good things for me like mn wage increases etc, but i think lib dems would do things like that anyway

torys: good policy on health, i beleive we should be looking to scrap the nhs all together now, and they're going a step in that direction. silly immigration policy, silly proposals to withdraw from EU particularly Eu Convention on H-Rights, and silly drug policy.

SNP lost my vote because theyre beleief that scotland would be better independent was based on the fact that 'if norway can do why cant we'

UN moderators??

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I've gone for Labour but I feel pretty shit about it! I vote Labour cos they still have some of the Old Labour types who believe what I believe (altho I'm not sure the MP I voted for in Leeds is like that, the one back home near Sheffield used to be a miner so he obviously was!) Do think they done a good job on the economy and foreign affairs doesn't really come into elections. Wouldn't mind if Lib Dems won tho

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foreign affairs doesn't really come into elections.


i used to think this but if you think about it alot of the asylum seekers that come here are coming from Iraq and surrounding area. no war=less reason for them to come here, which in turn leads to less strain on public services etc., and less racism

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