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Originally posted by AndskiSpeed Really though, they are to rock what Tiesto is to trance, people new to the genre or don't have much of a clue all love them because everybody else does, but they don't realise they're nothing special, like with Tiesto's dodgy mixing, the music in the U2 songs isn't great, like in Beautiful Day and Sometime's You Can't Make It On Your Own (I can't really comment on any of their very old stuff as I haven't heard it all, but from what I hear they were a lot better back then), simple basslines and guitars etc. The new material's lyrics are at best average, and the guitars in the 2 latest singles are the same! Fancy effects etc can make the riff to Vertigo sound cool but its all very basic really, the same with Sometimes You Can't Make It On Your Own although there's not really a big riff in that track. Anyway I don't really have much time to write a very long essay on this so I'll keep it short. U2 ride on the hype and status they've created in the past with some pretty good records and keep it going with very average material and lots of promotion on TV and radio etc (see All That You Can't Leave Behind, urgh), but nothing to make them the "legend" that they are at the moment, with a massive world tour that they charge £80 a ticket for. If they had lots of great songs on the standard of "Free Bird" by Lynard Skynard then fair enough I'd love them, but as I said earlier with really average music and lyrics there's so many more bands I'd rather listen to than U2 eg The Smiths, The Clash, Jimi Hendrix, New Order and Joy Division, Interpol, Pixies and many many others.

OK...Here we go...

1. To compare Tiesto to U2 is just plain blasfemy. Tiesto will never have the status U2 have because he doesn't even come close to the talent these four irish men have displayed for so many years...album after album.

2. I do agree that their latest album isn't their best. I don't like most of it. But keep in mind there's a reason why all their tour dates (except for 2 or 3 I believe) are sold out for the Vertigo Tour.

3. Maybe you're not old enough to remember, but back in 1997 when U2 released POP, they were trashed by their fans and the media for what was an "unfinished" album and a mediocre POPMART tour. U2 had to come back from that hard hit when everybody labeled them as a band that was dead and had nothing more worth to release. Sales for POP back then were 8 million (Don't know how much more of it they've sold to be honest), and that was, like I said, what the press and most fans labeled as their worst album of their career.

4. To come back from a hit like that isn't easy. But U2 did. And not many bands (if any) can achieve that. "All that you can't leave behind" sold about 11 million copies in a time when Napster and other file sharing programs were at its peak as there was little or no control on what you could download on these. The Elevation tour was the highest grossing tour that year and they were back. You DO NOT sell 11 million copies of "average" material, my friend, especially if you're just "riding on your status" and don't show breasts like Britney does.

5. Name 20 hits by Lynard Skynard. I can name 30 U2 hits people will remember instantly after just listening to 10 seconds of a song.

6. Artists who write "average" lyrics don't usually write about war in El Salvador (Bullet the blue sky), war in Northern Ireland (Sunday Bloody Sunday & Please), AIDS (One), Ecstacy (Discotheque), Your dying father (Kite), Your dying mother (MoFo), Martin Luther King (Pride)...and I could go on and on...

7. Similarly, bands who ride on their "hype", don't usually collaborate and or record with respected artists such as Luciano Pavarotti, Johnny Cash, Michael Stype, Roy Lichtenstein, Michael Hutchence, Brian Eno...and I could go on and on...

But yeah...I guess we're all wrong to agree with what this band has acomplished and done for rock n' roll.

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mylo remixed keane- this is the last time???

mylo is definently rocking it lately i really like his productions and remixes. not a fan of "drop the pressure"

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Mylo gets played on the radio/MTV? Not over here, from what I've heard. Heck, even Richie Hawtin was played regularly for a while on a music channel here...

doesnt matter how popular mylo is and how many people know him on TA or in other edm forums...
the bottom line is this: if he remixes u2, the most popular rock band in the world atm, he's gonna be known by many not edm fans who might like his music and get a bigger name for himself...
i know a lot of people who now have heard of redanka for remixing vertigo...that's just the way it is... how many people got to know above and beyond for remiing madonna????
is not called selling out is called taking advantage of a great opportunity that doesnt come often... and he can screw out with the remix and still, he remixed U2!

(who knows? maybe mylo really wants to "destroy rock & roll" [even though he doesnt mention u2 in the song] just kidding )

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Originally posted by deibero ... is not called selling out is called taking advantage of a great opportunity that doesnt come often... and he can screw out with the remix and still, he remixed U2! ...

but he said he wouldnt remix them...i think youve confused this thread more than others.

he isnt gonna remix them, simple as that.

doesnt matter 'how old you are' or anything. i cant believe this has turned into a nearly ten page thread about nothing....

oh well, such is ta|

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Originally posted by biznology but he said he wouldnt remix them...i think youve confused this thread more than others. he isnt gonna remix them, simple as that. doesnt matter 'how old you are' or anything. i cant believe this has turned into a nearly ten page thread about nothing.... oh well, such is ta|

i dont understand what you're saying...
everything seems clear to me...
i believed that even though he turned the remix down, he should have taken it...
one think is what really happened and another is my opinion!

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Originally posted by memusa OK...Here we go... 1. To compare Tiesto to U2 is just plain blasfemy. Tiesto will never have the status U2 have because he doesn't even come close to the talent these four irish men have displayed for so many years...album after album. 2. I do agree that their latest album isn't their best. I don't like most of it. But keep in mind there's a reason why all their tour dates (except for 2 or 3 I believe) are sold out for the Vertigo Tour. 3. Maybe you're not old enough to remember, but back in 1997 when U2 released POP, they were trashed by their fans and the media for what was an "unfinished" album and a mediocre POPMART tour. U2 had to come back from that hard hit when everybody labeled them as a band that was dead and had nothing more worth to release. Sales for POP back then were 8 million (Don't know how much more of it they've sold to be honest), and that was, like I said, what the press and most fans labeled as their worst album of their career. 4. To come back from a hit like that isn't easy. But U2 did. And not many bands (if any) can achieve that. "All that you can't leave behind" sold about 11 million copies in a time when Napster and other file sharing programs were at its peak as there was little or no control on what you could download on these. The Elevation tour was the highest grossing tour that year and they were back. You DO NOT sell 11 million copies of "average" material, my friend, especially if you're just "riding on your status" and don't show breasts like Britney does. 5. Name 20 hits by Lynard Skynard. I can name 30 U2 hits people will remember instantly after just listening to 10 seconds of a song. 6. Artists who write "average" lyrics don't usually write about war in El Salvador (Bullet the blue sky), war in Northern Ireland (Sunday Bloody Sunday & Please), AIDS (One), Ecstacy (Discotheque), Your dying father (Kite), Your dying mother (MoFo), Martin Luther King (Pride)...and I could go on and on... 7. Similarly, bands who ride on their "hype", don't usually collaborate and or record with respected artists such as Luciano Pavarotti, Johnny Cash, Michael Stype, Roy Lichtenstein, Michael Hutchence, Brian Eno...and I could go on and on... But yeah...I guess we're all wrong to agree with what this band has acomplished and done for rock n' roll.

Mmmm I agree and disagree with your points there, but I can't really be bothered to write another long post on it so I'll just say a couple of things:

I agree that they've done good selling a lot of records, selling out world tours, being around for 25 years etc, and respect them for managing to get to that level of success.

We could argue all day about how good or bad they really are, but you must agree that they aren't very good anymore, since Pop (or even Zooropa?) they've not really put out anything that's particularly worth a mention (arguably Beautiful Day, but I'm not much of a fan of that).

I don't really think that U2 have made such a great comeback as you say, maybe All that you can't leave behind was a lot better than Pop, which I haven't heard but I do have All That You Can't Leave Behind (I got it for Christmas unfortunately) and it's not particularly that good, the only tracks I can remember from there are Beautiful Day and Elevation (which I liked at the time), and you agreed that their new album isn't very good....

Hmm, that'll do for now, anyway my opinion is still the same, I don't like them, I think they're massively overrated and very average musically

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mylo is fucking shit

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Originally posted by Az mylo is fucking shit

haha I shouldn't have bothered reading, I should have known you were going to say that

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I put drop the pressure on a CD for a mate the other day, it's fucking shit.
Destroy rock n roll is shitter
you can tell it's some dodgy pothead from a remote scottish island.
Mylo makes no sense, therefore is shit

I actually really enjoyed Drop the Pressure and his other stuff (except for Destroy Rock 'N Roll...not a fan of that one), so I would be curious as to what he would do with a U2 track. We're definitely going to hear more from this guy though, he seems to be the go-to guy at the moment.

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