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Originally posted by Ix2L God, if anyone I didn't know personally kicked me in the groin. I'd deck them good, and as we are talking with the bouncers and getting kicked out. I'd kicked the crap out of him outside, because someone that I have met online is not someone who, I would be associated close with. so yeah, LKD possed a threat on that j-spot guy. because LKD probably knew he was vulnerable and would not defend himself againt LKD's actions. but I don't know all of you and I probably wouldn't like to meet you guys anymore. Since when do people who meet online become enemies? or atleast close enough friends. because anybody can say anything behind a screen. Even in the midst of the TOTA crowd, could exist an undercover cop. Sure, partying with a group of new people may be fun, but they wouldn't past that certain line. I know LKD was drunk, but when your drunk why did he have to bother people on TOTA. Doesn't he have his own personal friends? or it this all the friends he has. Since he is still active on the boards after what he has done, though I give him respects for not running away like a coward. Though, it's not his drinking problems. I think he should vanish from the TOTA crowd for alittle while and partying with his own group of friends if he plans to go out partying again. Because many people of this site see you of a different guy now. Until you change, you can return. But from my prespective, I wouldn't even accept an apology. To be honest, if you did that to me. You'd get decked every fucking time I'd see you. Until you learn not to come into contact with me anymore. But many people aren't like that, they are nice. Alike the crowd of TOTA, they still accept you and so mad respects out to the crowd. anyways, I will remain annoymous though. For sure, I do not know any of you guys nor LKD. Though, I would like a picture posted of him, so it would remind me to stay away from the guy or beware of what he is capable of. I think it would be good for all of us if you guys posted a picture of him. Or himself posted a picture of him. Either way, so the public of TOTA knows who he is and what he is capable of. Just to warn the TOTA crowd, if you get my drift. - Ix2L

This is one of the most incomprehensibly retarded things I've ever seen posted here.

Being an old skool or even the founder of TA, doesn’t make you have the right to act like this at any given time.

When I first met you, you were acting all high and mighty …. and for what? You always wanted to run the show. (Tiesto @ the KH in 2001. “Where is all the TAs?” “Look around you was all over and we’re taking over shit”) Even from this day, you walk around acting all high and mighty when you have simply nothing to show or prove. Even if you were the shit of the scene, is it proper for an individual to act like a king? And put people down and hit them?

Through out the years, you have been psychically and verbally abusing people when you’re drunk. From what I’ve heard, you’ve been like this from the start. Punching, slapping and any type of psychical attacking to random TAs. What have they done to you? What goes through your mind when you’re about to swing at them? Do you really have that much hate and anger towards everyone? Do you feel that you’re not accepted in some ways? Well hitting people and acting like a fool, really doesn’t help what kind of rep. you already have already … online and in person.

What you did at the Kool Haus on Saturday was unforgiving. Not only you have randomly hit so many TAs, you might even possible fuck up someone relationship with two very nice people. I have never seen this person so upset, she was crying throughout the night. You know she is the coolest (in your term) OLD SKOOL TA.

So many times I could have got you tossed out at the clubs, especially when you pushed Emery. The security asked me nicely, if I knew you and this and that. I had to think twice and let it go.

Why do you feel that TAs owes you for the shit you do? I do a lot for TA and everyone thanks me for it, but never thought about how much TA owes me for the time and effort I put in. I do what I want to do for one reason, is to have fun and make the people around me happy. I personally feel I owe TA so much, for all the support they have given me through out the years. I don't care if ppl think of me as "DA MAN or DA LEGEND" Fuck it, I'm just as importaint as everyone else on TA here, we're all at the equal level of respect and friendship.

I know nuff people are not going to accept your apologies or forgive you for all the shit you’ve done to all these random TAs through out the years. I never liked you, nor will I ever like you in the future. I never had seen such a messed up individual in my life. Honestly, you really need to seek help, with your drinking, anger management and how to be a nice person. If you don’t change your ways as individual, one of these days you will get hurt badly from someone that might even put you in the hospital.

*For all those who think what I’m saying here online is a method of hiding behind shit, I’ve told LKD 2x already in person about his behavior in the past*

Don’t waste your time posting a reply to this, b/c I not going to even bother to read it.

Last edited by E2EK1EL on Apr-18-2005 at 21:50

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Originally posted by crazedcanuck This is one of the most incomprehensibly retarded things I've ever seen posted here.

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Originally posted by Ix2L God, if anyone I didn't know personally kicked me in the groin. I'd deck them good, and as we are talking with the bouncers and getting kicked out. I'd kicked the crap out of him outside, because someone that I have met online is not someone who, I would be associated close with. so yeah, LKD possed a threat on that j-spot guy. because LKD probably knew he was vulnerable and would not defend himself againt LKD's actions. but I don't know all of you and I probably wouldn't like to meet you guys anymore. Since when do people who meet online become enemies? or atleast close enough friends. because anybody can say anything behind a screen. Even in the midst of the TOTA crowd, could exist an undercover cop. Sure, partying with a group of new people may be fun, but they wouldn't past that certain line. I know LKD was drunk, but when your drunk why did he have to bother people on TOTA. Doesn't he have his own personal friends? or it this all the friends he has. Since he is still active on the boards after what he has done, though I give him respects for not running away like a coward. Though, it's not his drinking problems. I think he should vanish from the TOTA crowd for alittle while and partying with his own group of friends if he plans to go out partying again. Because many people of this site see you of a different guy now. Until you change, you can return. But from my prespective, I wouldn't even accept an apology. To be honest, if you did that to me. You'd get decked every fucking time I'd see you. Until you learn not to come into contact with me anymore. But many people aren't like that, they are nice. Alike the crowd of TOTA, they still accept you and so mad respects out to the crowd. anyways, I will remain annoymous though. For sure, I do not know any of you guys nor LKD. Though, I would like a picture posted of him, so it would remind me to stay away from the guy or beware of what he is capable of. I think it would be good for all of us if you guys posted a picture of him. Or himself posted a picture of him. Either way, so the public of TOTA knows who he is and what he is capable of. Just to warn the TOTA crowd, if you get my drift. - Ix2L

if u ever need a job as a bodyguard....pm me pls

and nycionx you shouldnt assume things bout ppl u dont know dude its not to hard to do ...

i don't think this is the time or place to keep bashing somebody who obviously needs help.

Liam seems to be remorseful about his actions and has admitted to having a problem. He's taken the first step and reached out by apologizing.

So since so many of us call TOTA a family why can't we prove this now?

Like I said before and some other people on here - give him another chance to prove himself. Time will tell! If he fails to adbide by his commitment, THEN you have every right to condemn him, but not quite yet!

And as for you Liam, I think you need to do some serious rethinking of your behaviour and WHY you are acting the way you are! But remember, there are people here who have known you for a while and have been friends of yours for a reason, and who are willing to stand by your side to help you sort yourself out!

Going out and partying, getting drunk and high, may be a quick escape from reality, but you can never escape from yourself and your worst inner demons. It is definitely NOT the answer to your problems, alcohol included, which is only another means to escape anyways. If you continue like this alcohol will become your MAIN problem. So take the steps necessary now before you start entering a whole new ball game b/c then it will REALLY be difficult to get out of that downward spinning spiral!

Despite John's personal account, of which I had no idea how bad it's actually been over the last few years ... even if this is true I still think a person should get a chance to redeem himself. You will and probably already have lost quite a few friends in the course of your 'frenzy' and you will have to pay for your actions in the past. So count your losses and move on as a better person. Learn from this b/c this is probably the nicest as it's ever gonna get!

SO "TOTA family", what's it gonna be?

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Originally posted by Ix2L an undercover cop.

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...........riding the stripper pole

lkd change your custom sig to "im rick james bitch"

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH so you're saying he should drink home alone?

No dood...he's gotta work on his demons. I think he's taken a good step by apologizing...and I know ppl think apologies are easy but I'm sure that when demons are involved...it must be very hard.

Note: I'm not making excuses for ne1...just saying it like it is.

As for the drinking home alone...well, that's really up to him. It's not my place to tell him what to do...cuz he's the one that's gotta want to make changes like detox or whatever it takes to straighten things out.

I hope for his sake, he does something to change.

j_spot so sorry you had a bad nite. Glad to hear you handled it real kewl. As for the old skool TA that went home crying...I hope she's alright. I know this must be hurting real bad...and it wasn't fair...only time will heal. Rest assured if I'm ever at an event, I would be more than glad to come to the rescue

BTW I think disko-Kandi and dEsidEL have made some good suggestions and dEsidEL's words are very wise and need repeating.

"i think ppl will find the courage in them to forgive but they certainly won't forget. lesson learned, gotta move on"

PS Ix2L.... time to grew from a boys mentality to a man. Work on that.

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and dahum, you did that whole "hoodlum" look so well.

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Originally posted by Ix2L so yeah, LKD possed a threat on that j-spot guy. because LKD probably knew he was vulnerable and would not defend himself againt LKD's actions.

J-spot is a wrestler and could have put LKD in some serious pain but he chose not to. Ix2L, if you don't know LKD or what's going on here please mind your own business.

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