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Originally posted by karim Here's something to think about that applies to us. The Ecstacy trade. Alot of the chemical drugs are produced in post communist nations after communism collapsed, because many of these educated, qualified scientists were out of employment and wouldn't be hired by alot of the first worlds pharmacutical companies. In turn, they use their skills in illicit drug manufacturing. Karim

They are out of employment because there was no need to build up the military after the collapse of the USSR. Do you really want employment at the expense of war?

Im not syaing that any nation is guilt free of this, but that is the reason those scientist are out of work. it has nothing to do with communism vs capitalism.

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Originally posted by karim Absolutely no leg? Are you kidding me? Poland only recently started charging for education. My 2 cousins (one a judge, the youngest female judge in poland, and the other a doctor) both got their educations for free. And I know nothing about it because I didn't live htere? Karim

werent you the one saying that "i have a friend that lives there" arguement has no creedence?

So which is it?

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Originally posted by Jayx1 werent you the one saying that "i have a friend that lives there" arguement has no creedence? So which is it?

I wasn't giving credibility to somebodies ideological belief based on their residence in a communist nation. I was simply stating a fact that said nation offered free education. 2 VERY DIFFERENT THINGS.


Karim

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Originally posted by Jayx1 They are out of employment because there was no need to build up the military after the collapse of the USSR. Do you really want employment at the expense of war? Im not syaing that any nation is guilt free of this, but that is the reason those scientist are out of work. it has nothing to do with communism vs capitalism.

Once again I'll bring up a fact about Poland because it is the meth haven of europe (in terms of manufacturing). And Poland really didn't have that much military expansion back in its days of communism.


Karim

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military buildup and scinetists are quite far apart...true, many scientiest did work for the military...but many of them now work for the US military instead that's fact #1

Fact #2 - who said there is no need for military after the collapse of the USSR..do you really think they just stopped developing new things? As far as I understand the only way to get to and from space at this point in time is through Russia They don't have things falling apart (courtesy of the capitalistic approach of building cheap - ex North American cars...)

Anyway...don't get the military involved there are very different things....actually now that I think about every single peson in my family (from my mother's side) were scientiests - still are...none did anything for the military

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