I had a fake when I was seventeen. My first of many.

Why? Because I had to. Had no choice.

I welcome partying with resoursefull 19 year olds! Not with pooling 18 year olds.

Sorry but if you can't pull it off you don't belong.

Work the system if you want to see the DJ's. It can be done.

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Originally posted by djskyhigh lol about how fucked up you were... hahahah what if your parents just randomly found this thread and found out that their little boy was actually starboy on TA and he was just too fucked up to remember hahahhahahahahhah anyway, lol, glad you got to listen to my mix and that you are enjoying it. theres a bunch of other sets for download on my site. hope you get to come back to the club soon. we love havin the outta state flavor up in the mix!!!

Oh i was in rare form, trust me i would like to thank the little asian dude who made it happen its all about moderation, mind over matter, some can do it some cannot. I personally love to let loose when im on vacation because i work very hard and i deserve it

I will DL ur other mixes because i enjoyed the one you gave me, thanks for that

Oh and lol @ whoever said "anything over 140 bpm isn't trance" that's just hillarious, thanks for the good laugh

Wow this has become quite a dramatic thread. lol Either way Lomeli has some very valid points. ClubHeavenLA Riot

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Originally posted by Lomeli *FUCK...NO! Heaven should not return to 21+. I can't wait 3 years until I can start going to Heaven, or any other club! It's just not fair! There is NOWHERE ELSE even remotely close to where I live that is 18+ that brings some very great talent, or any talent at all! *I was one of the friends that came along from SB with SVGmethod. It's sometimes a real bitch having to drive down there. Traffic is such a hassle, there are crazy ass drivers, but I do it because it's the only place around, and because I love club heaven! *You don't want candy ravers? Dress code can take care of that. You want to get rid of drugs? Have tighter security. Want more space to dance? Get rid of those damn dance circles and glowsticks. It's not a rave, it's a fucking club! Kids acting immature? Kick their asses out to the curb! One last note. *How about we get rid of those 40+ asians. NO, IM NOT A RACIST AT ALL! But they were the ones that were really bugging me (NOT ALL, but MOST of them.) They have no shame or respect. The women swing their hair all over the place. The men have two girls that are probably half their age in their arms, and they're swaying back and forth bumping into every ten seconds. Don't say that GA brings that crowd, because they were there for all of the Arena headliners also. ONCE AGAIN, i'm not saying it's ALL of them. It's like you saying that all of the 18+ are like that, which isn't true either! I'm 18 and have respect for the venue and people that want to have a good time.

Don't hate b/c you can not have 2 girls half your age in your arms!
It dosn't bother me that "older" people are at the club too. Remeber you are never to old to party and enjoy music and you are only as old as you feel. Shoot watch when I am 40 I will still be out dancing the night away!!
Anways... I do agree with you on one point. That whole washing macine move gets so old an annoying. Some groups just bump into people and do not care that hair and bodys are smaking someone else. What is worse they do it in the front!

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Originally posted by sweetcandy girl Don't hate b/c you can not have 2 girls half your age in your arms!

Haha, I think i'll pass on the 9 year olds!

And hell yea, I have nothing against the "veterans" of dance music! I guess my point is that they need to get with the times and learn some new dance moves!

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Originally posted by Lomeli *FUCK...NO! Heaven should not return to 21+. I can't wait 3 years until I can start going to Heaven, or any other club! It's just not fair! There is NOWHERE ELSE even remotely close to where I live that is 18+ that brings some very great talent, or any talent at all! *I was one of the friends that came along from SB with SVGmethod. It's sometimes a real bitch having to drive down there. Traffic is such a hassle, there are crazy ass drivers, but I do it because it's the only place around, and because I love club heaven! *You don't want candy ravers? Dress code can take care of that. You want to get rid of drugs? Have tighter security. Want more space to dance? Get rid of those damn dance circles and glowsticks. It's not a rave, it's a fucking club! Kids acting immature? Kick their asses out to the curb! One last note. *How about we get rid of those 40+ asians. NO, IM NOT A RACIST AT ALL! But they were the ones that were really bugging me (NOT ALL, but MOST of them.) They have no shame or respect. The women swing their hair all over the place. The men have two girls that are probably half their age in their arms, and they're swaying back and forth bumping into every ten seconds. Don't say that GA brings that crowd, because they were there for all of the Arena headliners also. ONCE AGAIN, i'm not saying it's ALL of them. It's like you saying that all of the 18+ are like that, which isn't true either! I'm 18 and have respect for the venue and people that want to have a good time.

Brilliant.

I think one of the main reasons for the 21+ is not what poeple are wearing or how they're acting or drug use. From a club's perspective it has do more with alcohol. A club has to very concerned with losing their liquour license. Without that they might as well shutdown. That is the reason for not letting in 18+ until after 1:30AM.
That is what I meant by it's a struggle for Heaven, the promoter, to keep it 18+. So the fight or argument is not with Heaven, it's with the drinking age laws.

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Originally posted by BiG MiKE Trance is usually between 138-141 BPM. 141 would be a teeny bit out there, but I think its still within reason to call it Trance.

hmmm.... I'm not a beat counter but I have a pretty good sense of timing. and I am pretty sure that the majority of Paul Van Dyk's set is set @ 144BPM. Sorry he does not play trance....

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Originally posted by DJFaded hmmm.... I'm not a beat counter but I have a pretty good sense of timing. and I am pretty sure that the majority of Paul Van Dyk's set is set @ 144BPM. Sorry he does not play trance....

The only time I heard PVD play at 144 was his last set at the Mayan... It had a very german trancy feel too it...
His Set at Space was not at 144.

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Originally posted by sweetcandy girl The only time I heard PVD play at 144 was his last set at the Mayan... It had a very german trancy feel too it... His Set at Space was not at 144.

Sorry.. I was not aware of his set SINCE I WAS STANDING OUTSIDE THE FUCKEN CLUB FOR 3 FUCKEN HOURS TRYING TO GET IN!! and only caught the last 30 minutes of his set!!!! but the 5-6 hour Ferry Set was more then enough plus bouncing back to the patio for Sander was plenty. Although PvD is my favorite technical/programming DJ, I wish I could have seen the entire thing.

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Originally posted by DJFaded Sorry.. I was not aware of his set SINCE I WAS STANDING OUTSIDE THE FUCKEN CLUB FOR 3 FUCKEN HOURS TRYING TO GET IN!! and only caught the last 30 minutes of his set!!!! but the 5-6 hour Ferry Set was more then enough plus bouncing back to the patio for Sander was plenty. Although PvD is my favorite technical/programming DJ, I wish I could have seen the entire thing.

That totlay sucks!!! It was an awsome set!! The best PVD set I heard yet actully.
His set at Monster Massive was also not at 144...

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Originally posted by BiG MiKE Trance is usually between 138-141 BPM. 141 would be a teeny bit out there, but I think its still within reason to call it Trance.

A lot of trance is produced at about 138BPM, correct. Some even lower. However, I don't know one person that spins at zero pitch, lol. Shit, 140 is too slow, IMO. Real energy is at 143-145, and trance can still sound good at 146 or higher (aka the end of Push's set at his first Spundae appearance, anyone? Faster trance set I've ever heard played in a club - and I confirmed he was at 146BPM).

A good track is still a good track if it's played faster. In a lot of cases, a rather mediocre track can turn into a kick ass monster simply by playing it faster.

If you can't handle 145BPM, there are always the puddles to relax in.......

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