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squirrelly
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Not only that, but strangling Padme - the person who he wanted to save by turning to the dark side


Yes, that was a bit off as well. Especially when she's the whole reason he went "dark" to begin with!


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Old Post Jun-10-2005 17:27  Poland
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Come on, Anakin is someone who is unable to control his powerful emotions, are you going to tell me when people loose control of their emotions they don't hurt people, even the ones dearest to them?


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Come on, Anakin is someone who is unable to control his powerful emotions, are you going to tell me when people loose control of their emotions they don't hurt people, even the ones dearest to them?


I'd like to think not.


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You'd like to think not, but it happens all the time, in fact the FBI once said that a woman is beaten every 15 minutes by a husband or significant other.

But surely, a confused, person who is unable to control his emotions such as Anakin would never do such a thing.


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I'd like to think not.

Unfortunately reality isn't quite like that - just ask poor Little Mo...

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You'd like to think not, but it happens all the time, in fact the FBI once said that a woman is beaten every 15 minutes by a husband or significant other.

But surely, a confused, person who is unable to control his emotions such as Anakin would never do such a thing.


So you're trying to justify the beating that a woman gets from her husband? Usually a husband knows for a fact that he's beating on his wife, and that his wife is too hopeful that he'll stop to just walk away, or she's in fear of her life should she leave.


You're telling me you would just choke your wife if you were confused in a situation rather than figuring out what happened first? Kill the bitch, figure it out later, that's what you're saying? Even confused people would take a minute to completely figure something out before just killing their SO.


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Im not saying its right at all, just that it happens. I would never, ever hit a woman, unless she was threatening my life. In a moment of frustration with a person who cannot control their emotions (Anakin), who weild tremendous power, the chance of violence happening is hightened. Although I felt Anakin became bad too quickly, I do not see this part as a character mistake at all.


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The explanation that Anakin reacted out of frustration - lost control of himself - when he strangled Padme, is not really in thread with the supposed rules of the Star Wars universe. When you become a Jedi you train your powers by focusing and concentrating. You train your mind to be calm in hectic situations - zen style. If Anakin loses his grip on reality as quickly as it's portrayed in this bad excuse for a movie, then he could never had become a Jedi.

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Well, as said by the Sith lord, they are more powerful than the Jedi because they use their emotion, they fight with passion. The Jedi do not believe in emotion, that is why Anakin failed to be the Jedi he was supposed to. But because Anakin cannot control the emotions he has does not mean he wouldn't be capable of the powers he weilded, in fact you could argue that this character flaw makes his powers stronger.


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Luke destroys the ring and Bilbo destroys the sphere. Woops, Luke destroys the sphere and Bilbo destroys the ring. So difficult to keep two representations of the same thing seperate.


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Well, as said by the Sith lord, they are more powerful than the Jedi because they use their emotion, they fight with passion. The Jedi do not believe in emotion, that is why Anakin failed to be the Jedi he was supposed to. But because Anakin cannot control the emotions he has does not mean he wouldn't be capable of the powers he weilded, in fact you could argue that this character flaw makes his powers stronger.


Yeah except he got his ass whooped by Obi. He thought too much of himself and ended up getting his whole body cut off and then burned into nearly ashes. After all of his training for so long in the Jedi world, a few days onto the dark side and his head blows up to the size of the earth so that he could think he'd actually WIN that fight? Pffft.


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I don't see why this isn't plausable. His transformation to the darkside is too quick, but his actions are in line for where his character stands. The Sith believe their emotions make them more powerful, and if channelled properly they most likely do, however the Sith are uncapable of ever truly controlling their emotions, for that would contradict their belief in a crave for more power, thus also a crave for strong emotion. Anakin was blinded by hate, not cockyness, and that was why he got Lt. Daned.


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