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Clovis
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Los Angeles

quote:
Originally posted by DJFaded
It shouldn't matter but if you dont have any dj experience and are just a fan, then it does matter. part of seeing a dj is watching them work the crowd, not work the computer. it's cool to see a dj release vinyl or slam the play button on the cdj. but until they have cool controls to slam on to work with tracks, people just dont understand.....



Yeah...but I can tell you when Sasha starts echoeing a part of a track into the next universe during a buildup he is definatley working the fucking crowd


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DJFaded
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Registered: Feb 2005
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Originally posted by Clovis86
he is definatley working the fucking crowd


How about sasha work deez nutz..... can he do that??


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Boomer187
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Registered: Aug 2001
Location: USA

quote:
Originally posted by Zombie0729
every 'big' DJ we know is big because of his productions, thats why they get the big gigs.

Very rarely, VERY rarely do you see big DJ's w/ no productions under their belt. So to say, Producers make bad DJ's, you're labeling every major DJ as a bad one




I think I am talking about those who start off as producers and attempt to dj, then there are those who start off as djs, and then get into producing. There is a difference.


and cletus, beatmatchin is easy, why would anyone concentrate on that. didn't you say earlier that anyone can beatmatch?

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Clovis
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Los Angeles

quote:
Originally posted by Boomer187

and cletus, beatmatchin is easy, why would anyone concentrate on that. didn't you say earlier that anyone can beatmatch?



Its easy but you still have to do it...and that takes more time away from actually thinking about the transition and the tracks.


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Boomer187
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Registered: Aug 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by Clovis86
Its easy but you still have to do it...and that takes more time away from actually thinking about the transition and the tracks.




it takes like 20 seconds :P



ill time myself....

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Clovis
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Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Los Angeles

quote:
Originally posted by Boomer187
it takes like 20 seconds :P



ill time myself....



lol. So essentially what you're sayin is DJing is easy as pie.


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JenniferRene
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Registered: May 2005
Location: here & there

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Originally posted by tjpatel
how about 29


73-60+12 = 25???

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73-60+16 = 29???

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Zombie0729
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quote:
Originally posted by Boomer187
I think I am talking about those who start off as producers and attempt to dj, then there are those who start off as djs, and then get into producing. There is a difference.


boomer, tell me who you like as a DJ... and don't run around this question, but honest with yourself(and me)

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tjpatel
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JenniferRene
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Registered: May 2005
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quote:
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hey you changed that....

btw your pic didnt work

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DJ_Sudden
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Registered: May 2005
Location: LATA#256

If the laptop is being used to beat match and perform every mix, then no.
If it’s used as another source of music like CDs and Vinyl, or samples or effects then yes.

A laptop software such as Ableton could deliver an amazing, flawless set in the right hands with good controllers, however, a flawless set made with cds and vinyl shows more of the DJ’s skills and abilities to beat match and mix and (in my opinion) will receive more feedback from the crowd simply because there is more energy and creativity involved and the mixing is live. By live I mean, being unable to preview your mixes and predicting them based on your own knowledge of the track and EQ levels. I love technology and believe it makes things amazingly faster, easier and more creative, however, when it is used to completely perform a task it takes the original vibe out of the live act. You could be more creative, because you don’t have to take the time to beat match, or make sure records stay in sync when you dj on a laptop, but then your are not really djing because there are no skills really required for performing a mix that is already done and could be previewed and fixed before it goes live. Someone mentioned that g&d’s set did not deliver as much energy for the crowd. I think that relates to what people expect from the performer. Some people(fans) go to see the dj’s beat matching ability and mixing skills combined with creativity and track selection. In my opinion if you take the ability and the hands-on, live skills out of the picture, there is only creativity remained, which by itself is not as energetic as all of them combined. Again, you might have a great, amazing set, but you did not DJ. I also believe that if laptops get more popular (which they will, since they are becoming more affordable), and the performer is only using his laptop, it should be specifically noted in the title of the event that this event is a laptop performance and not a dj set. Don’t get me wrong though laptops to me are like cd players: another source of music, samples and effects. I just think that a dj needs to have developed an EAR for music and beat mixing through practice.

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