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Cobalt
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Vancouver, BC

Paul is as self-important an egomaniac as the best of them, he's just less overt about it.

But that isn't terribly relevant to the point at hand, which is that remixers are sometimes left off compilation covers. It's a risk that comes with the terrain.

Old Post Aug-31-2005 11:42  Canada
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scAza
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I think most people who are gonna buy Tpod2 will already know the situation with "messages" anyway, as most trance fans are really into the music in an obsessive sense, and use websites like this one or buy records themselves etc. Its not like girls goin into HMV to buy the latest "Hed Kandi" CD an not having a clue who any of the artists are...

Chances are any great trance tracks on CDs that trance-heads like, they'll do their best to track down the tune on the net or in record stores etc, and if someone likes "messages" that much, will no doubt stumble across all this info.

Gerry has nothing to worry about imo, he WILL get credit from trance-fans at some point, and so what if he has to write "oh but PVD doesn't put credits for remixers on his Tpod CDs", when he mails record companies.


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Dave Clarke
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quote:
Originally posted by djmetatron
what, the facts about weither pvd is actually arrogant enought to think he is the real remixer of all the tracks and that's why he doesn't credit them? we both don't know that one, but I'm arguing on the hypothetical case that this is true. if not, well, you have to admit that the remixers should still get the fugging credit.



They do get credit. Inside the sleeve as is pretty standard practice for a lot of CD's. This whole thing has come about because gerry cueto hasnt got his name on the COVER of the CD. The only reason he wants this is to 'make it big', which is a load of shit. He should be happy to be involved in the process.

Taking into consideration that he isnt in fact the official remixer, but rather the original producer, then your argument just falls away. gerry & solange should have checked the original contract which states that the name SOLANGE has to stay intact for 10 years before they went sending out promos of 'Gerry Cueto - Messages'. You cant blame PvD for this just because its happened to end up on his CD.

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They do get credit. Inside the sleeve as is pretty standard practice for a lot of CD's. This whole thing has come about because gerry cueto hasnt got his name on the COVER of the CD. The only reason he wants this is to 'make it big', which is a load of shit. He should be happy to be involved in the process.

Taking into consideration that he isnt in fact the official remixer, but rather the original producer, then your argument just falls away. gerry & solange should have checked the original contract which states that the name SOLANGE has to stay intact for 10 years before they went sending out promos of 'Gerry Cueto - Messages'. You cant blame PvD for this just because its happened to end up on his CD.


It seems that hes mad that he "produced" the track then Solange, went to look at the contract, and said looky here lol!


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keithos27
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave Clarke
The only reason he wants this is to 'make it big', which is a load of shit. He should be happy to be involved in the process.



Why is that a load of shit (if it is indeed true)?

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he should blame himself and solange for not checking the contracts first, rather than making twatty comments in the direction of a dj that was good enough to remix his track and include it on his compilation. fucking kids

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Why is that a load of shit (if it is indeed true)?



You dont make music to become big & famous. If you dont understand why this is a load of shit then I cant help you at all. Engage your brain.

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Dave Clarke a tranceaddict in training...what would you know about trance anyway?


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keithos27
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quote:
Originally posted by Dave Clarke
You dont make music to become big & famous. If you dont understand why this is a load of shit then I cant help you at all. Engage your brain.


Don't get cute with me, just answer the f'ing question.

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Don't get cute with me, just answer the f'ing question.


Making music to become famous is a load of shit. I fail to see what you cant understand about this statement. How can I bring this down to your level?

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Dave Clarke a tranceaddict in training...what would you know about trance anyway?


http://www.discogs.com/artist/Dave+Clarke

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THE_Chris
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Whats funny about all this is that if any of you were in the same position you'd be moaning.

I do feel sorry for Gerry. The fact of the matter is that Paul SHOULD credit remixers on the back of the cover, especially as he doesnt seem to have done much reworking this time round. Its BS that he doesnt, and this whole incident proves it.


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