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Originally posted by fayraree Awww, fuck yeah! And how about those asian/black mixes...DAYUM exotic if you ask me!

Like Ferraris, am I right or am I right

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Originally posted by fayraree Still, white girls are hawt!* *this statement has been approved by the P.T.A.

Nothing (in my books) is hotter than a really blonde white girl!

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Originally posted by Dark_Archonis Well said. Blacks were not the ONLY people who suffered hardships throughout history, and endured slavery. People need to get this through their heads! Why don't we see a month in recognition of europeans or asians who were used as slaves? And like you said, why is there no recognition for native peoples ... they were treated just as bad, if not worse than African/black people. Double-standards suck.

black history month exists b/c the slavery was recent and america was built on the backs of these ppl and the very least that the country could do is recognize their struggle. black history month is celebrated in north america, where the enslavement of blacks was not only recent and dominant in the history of a country that truly isn't very old when you look at the rest of the world. How prevalent was the slavery of other races in the history of north america?

I'm not debating the importance of aborginials (or debating that they were treated atrociously) or any other minority in north american history, but just trying to explain why the importance of black history as it relates to slavery.

A little off-topic but...

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Originally posted by VERTiG0 Like Ferraris, am I right or am I right

I <3 cars.

Is it just me, or does every single guy(doesnt matter which race) out there like asian girls?


Also.. you gotta love those blonde girls!
To bad that scientists believe natural blondes will die out within 200 years

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we dont have an asian month, cause we dont give a shit its the past.

but we do have chinese new year

and my people have it pretty good now if i must say so myself.

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Originally posted by Jem_hadar Haven't read the article yet, about to, but just wanted to comment on this. EXACTLY! God bless the way double standard work, eh? Because, yes, we never get all riled up when ppl wanna celebrate Black History month and honour their heritage. Nothing wrong with wanting to celebrate white heritage either (in the same sense as other ppl celebrate their cultures) -Jem-

whoa. i highly reccomend reading the article before commenting. i have come across no instances where people concerned with preserving/celebrating 'white history' are not also associated with 'white racial purity' or nazi's, KKK, Heritage front, holocaust deniers. back in the early to mid 1990's the GTA had some serious issues w/ neo-nazis and these notions were tossed around by a lot of people. When I woudl go downtown when I was 14 or 15 back in 1992 and 1993 these pro-white movement kids woudl try to recruit and pass out flyers that had some pretty insane 'historical information'

there are a lot of celebrations that celebrate cultures dominated by white ppl--none of which focus on racial purity--this is a key distinction. Living in kitchener, I have seen/participated in Oktoberfest. It was pretty cool to see all kinds of ppl, visible minorities and otherwise celebrating germanic history ( i saw a tonne of chinese and indian people wearing alpine hats for example. no one seems to get up in arms about octoberfest being celebrated, but several ppl in this thread have complained about black history month.

black history month does not focus on 'racial purity' in fact, black history is not so much about colour but about culture and experience-- there are varying shades of black skin/mixes. black history month is about rising up against obstacles-- racial discrimination that hit on economic, sexual, and social levels and ppl taking risks and standing up to fight for equality. I just don't see what is so wrong with celebrating such an incredible feat.

I couldn't even make it past the 3rd paragraph, or jon jon's 2nd post in this thread.

What an absolute crock of shit. But nonetheless typical of the hard-Left ABC news culture. Editorials masquerading as news.

There's barely a modicum of factual information in that article - just a lot of emotionally-charged rhetoric and loaded words like "racist".

Racism is a belief in the superiority of a particular race. In the one snippet of song lyrics they published, which was presumably the most powerful example they could find, the evidence of such a belief is *at best* inconclusive and debatable.

The only comment that actually made any sense was the comparison of these lyrics to gangsta rap. Regardless of this writer's incredibly transparent attempt to wave off that analogy, it's essentially what the music is. It may be stupid, and it may be in poor taste, but it's protected by freedom of speech and certainly is NOT spreading "hate" (where does it say anything about blacks, such that the NAACP needs to get on their case about it?).

Frankly, even though I don't agree with their message, I'm glad to see that some artists out there aren't petrified of offending the delicate sensibilities of liberal airheads sensitivity-trained into a coma.

The only thing about this whole issue that truly reflects the "sorry state of the world" is the fact that some journalists actually consider these things newsworthy.

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Originally posted by DigiNut I couldn't even make it past the 3rd paragraph, or jon jon's 2nd post in this thread. What an absolute crock of shit. But nonetheless typical of the hard-Left ABC news culture. Editorials masquerading as news. There's barely a modicum of factual information in that article - just a lot of emotionally-charged rhetoric and loaded words like "racist". Racism is a belief in the superiority of a particular race. In the one snippet of song lyrics they published, which was presumably the most powerful example they could find, the evidence of such a belief is *at best* inconclusive and debatable. The only comment that actually made any sense was the comparison of these lyrics to gangsta rap. Regardless of this writer's incredibly transparent attempt to wave off that analogy, it's essentially what the music is. It may be stupid, and it may be in poor taste, but it's protected by freedom of speech and certainly is NOT spreading "hate" (where does it say anything about blacks, such that the NAACP needs to get on their case about it?). Frankly, even though I don't agree with their message, I'm glad to see that some artists out there aren't petrified of offending the delicate sensibilities of liberal airheads sensitivity-trained into a coma. The only thing about this whole issue that truly reflects the "sorry state of the world" is the fact that some journalists actually consider these things newsworthy.

again. I reccomend reading the entire article first.

i think there is cause for concern, and I think it is newsworthy when there and political movements, espcially when children are involved, used to teach other children about such historical "heroes" as members if the nazi party:

Songs like "Sacrifice" — a tribute to Nazi Rudolf Hess, Hitler's deputy Fuhrer — clearly show the effect of the girls' upbringing. The lyrics praise Hess as a "man of peace who wouldn't give up."

as I mentioned back in the 1990's there was a neo-nazi movement that was very real. There were a tonne of kids being recruited to join violent neo-nazi groups at this time. Obviously the consequences of having groups such as this are heinous (ie hate crimes). I guess I'm more sensitive to this on account of the fact that I knew someone who got his jugular vein slashed by a neo-nazi at a subway altercation (he lived).

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Originally posted by charmscars black history month exists b/c the slavery was recent and america was built on the backs of these ppl and the very least that the country could do is recognize their struggle. black history month is celebrated in north america, where the enslavement of blacks was not only recent and dominant in the history of a country that truly isn't very old when you look at the rest of the world. How prevalent was the slavery of other races in the history of north america? I'm not debating the importance of aborginials (or debating that they were treated atrociously) or any other minority in north american history, but just trying to explain why the importance of black history as it relates to slavery.

Slight correction: America itself was built by rich Europeans. Black people were used as slave labour, true, but any number of other races could have been used as well.

How about all the asians and ukranians that came to Canada over a Century ago, and it was mostly them that built the CPR (Canadian Pacific Railroad).

Regular folk didn't want to work that dangerous job, so the mining, the digging, the explosives used to cut through the mountains was all done by these minorities. Many lost their lives, got paid extremely little, and had almost no rights.

And little blacks were actually used in Canada, in fact, probably more Asians were used for labour here in Canada than black people.

For the CPR for example, black labour was not even close to being predominant, compared to Asians.

Native slavery was very prevalent ... natives were often raped, slaughtered, and used as slaves in Canada.

Plus, their land in North America was taken over.

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Originally posted by Dark_Archonis Slight correction: America itself was built by rich Europeans. Black people were used as slave labour, true, but any number of other races could have been used as well. How about all the asians and ukranians that came to Canada over a Century ago, and it was mostly them that built the CPR (Canadian Pacific Railroad). Regular folk didn't want to work that dangerous job, so the mining, the digging, the explosives used to cut through the mountains was all done by these minorities. Many lost their lives, got paid extremely little, and had almost no rights. And little blacks were actually used in Canada, in fact, probably more Asians were used for labour here in Canada than black people. For the CPR for example, black labour was not even close to being predominant, compared to Asians. Native slavery was very prevalent ... natives were often raped, slaughtered, and used as slaves in Canada. Plus, their land in North America was taken over.

I said america was built on 'the backs' of black slaves. It was obviously a european vision that exploited black labour.

Minories that were pd practically nothing were also exploited, but it's definitely not the same as actually being chattle and being owned by someone, having no free will.

I don't disagree that there were people other than blacks that were used as slave labour but in a north american context, (not specifically a candian context) as a people they were brought to this continent specifically as slave labour, and if you look at north america as a whole the majority of slave labour was made up of blacks. obviously in the north of the US and in Canada slavery just wasn't as prevalent as in the south. plantations existed in climates where only certain types of agricultultural areas (ie for coton production which was not produced in the north)


I'm not trying to say that blacks were the only ppl that suffered, but as a people they struggled and lot, contributed a lot-- their numbers alone are meaningful. There is a context for black history month to exist in and it's obviously not the building of the CPR. I just understand why ppl have such an aversion to it. it doesn't take away from any other group. i don't understand why ppl are so defensive about it.

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Originally posted by charmscars I said america was built on 'the backs' of black slaves. It was obviously a european vision that exploited black labour. Minories that were pd practically nothing were also exploited, but it's definitely not the same as actually being chattle and being owned by someone, having no free will. I don't disagree that there were people other than blacks that were used as slave labour but in a north american context, (not specifically a candian context) as a people they were brought to this continent specifically as slave labour, and if you look at north america as a whole the majority of slave labour was made up of blacks. obviously in the north of the US and in Canada slavery just wasn't as prevalent as in the south. plantations existed in climates where only certain types of agricultultural areas (ie for coton production which was not produced in the north) I'm not trying to say that blacks were the only ppl that suffered, but as a people they struggled and lot, contributed a lot-- their numbers alone are meaningful. There is a context for black history month to exist in and it's obviously not the building of the CPR. I just understand why ppl have such an aversion to it. it doesn't take away from any other group. i don't understand why ppl are so defensive about it.

I guess just seeing so much emphasis on it is what bugs me.

The concept of it itself does not bug me.

It also indirectly encourages black people to strengthen ties with other blacks, leading to segregation.

In other countries, where similar special periods exist, they are not emphasized to such a huge extent.

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