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Originally posted by Philby you are basically locked up, that seems pretty inadequate to me at least. being surrounded by an electric fence instead of a nice picket or brick fence i think is inadequate. being denied access to medication i would say is inadequate. being punished for complaining that personal belongings were not transferred along with him from another detention centre i would say is inadequate. not having fresh water running throughout the day i would also say is inadequate.

How do u know they dont have medication and fresh water ?

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Originally posted by narcism You have yet to tell me whats so inadequate though?

dude, youre talking about putting ppl in jail. i dont expect jail is up there with disneyland on places to visit.

some of these people come from countries we had a personal involvement in destablising. im not saying we shouldnt have some kind of system in place, but keeping ppl (inc children) locked up for years without an idea of when it might end isnt right.

at the end of the day i dont think that i should have any more right to live in australia just coz thats where my parents happened to fvck.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN dude, youre talking about putting ppl in jail. i dont expect jail is up there with disneyland on places to visit.

yes and its my understanding all jails high and low security have a medical officer and running water.
Its no indonesian jail we are sitting them in.

i thought you were a bit smarter than that narcism

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Originally posted by lorderan I think John Howard has lost the plot. He is usually an excellent judge of public opinion, he has an incredible nack of testing which way the wind blows. But this IR legislation.....he has completely lost it. Every single person I've spoken to are against this shit, and I mean everyone!!! People are really pissed off. Anyone interested there will be a huge protest on the 15th of November 2005 (Australia wide). We may not be able to reach Howard, but we can send a very clear message to the Liberal members in the Senate that if they want to keep their jobs....they vote this legislation down. BTW this'll be my first protest.....(I'm getting excited)

No he hasn't completely lost it. John Howard is fully aware of what he's doing. In many respects, this is what he want's to be remembered for. I guess it's a life-long obsession, and nothing will stand in his way, not even Barnaby Joyce (the National's senator who holds balance of power in the Senate) or a dissenting public. Hence the associated "information campaign" will probably stay with us well after the legislation is passed (whether or not it changes people's minds).

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN i thought you were a bit smarter than that narcism

Prove to me that these people dont have any water.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN i thought you were a bit smarter than that narcism

I thought you pkc were smarter than that too.

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Last edited by Trance Nutter on Oct-27-2005 at 09:58

i've found out whats so inadequate about these places

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Fires and riots have broken out in at least 4 of the 7 asylum seeker detention centers in mainland Australia and in a detention center for boat people on Christmas Island. On the same weekend fires destroyed at least 20 rooms were destroyed at the Baxter detention center when inmates apparently set bedding, furniture and shower curtains alight.

they burnt what they had

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Reports of the sixteen hunger strikers, although the wording is minimal, indicate that the strike has reached a stage where critical organs start to be damaged beyond recovery.

They dont want to eat our food.

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Amongst the Iranian men are now those who pass blood in their urine, in addition to a general weakness - even people who had just returned from the hospital in Port Augusta had to be assisted to sit up to ingest water

They dont get medical attention either.

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Originally posted by DJ_Ballistic I am one of those people that likes to throw their vote away every year. You can't win with any government, you just gotta put up with it

i can see why someone would think like that, but if the majority of the population think along the same lines then the whole democratic system becomes a joke.

cue voluntary voting a la Americas (which is even more of a joke).

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Originally posted by narcism Prove to me that these people dont have any water.

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These use brackish water that only runs for about six hours, spread over various parts of the day.

from an australian senator's visit to one of the detention centres
http://www.refugeeaction.org/inside/bartlett_nauru.htm

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Originally posted by Philby from an australian senator's visit to one of the detention centres http://www.refugeeaction.org/inside/bartlett_nauru.htm

good on u for picking one thats not in australia