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Originally posted by Moral Hazard Roman actually.

From my understanding it was actually Greek. some romans practiced it too. It was Christianity in Rome that took it over as a way of controlling domestic religion, it still lasted in Greece for a few years after Rome officially adopted Christianity.

PS sorry that was off topic.

pps to be back on topic... I'm all for political correctness. I think it is a sign of increased tolleracnce and recongition of minority groups. It is a sad day then the majority silences the liberties of the minority. I'd take the pursuit liberty over democracy any day.
It is a holiday season because lets face it, it's holidays regardless of if you're christian or jewish or someother group that has something to celebrate during the season. On xmas day, yeah sure keep calling it christmas if you're christian, I have no beef with that but to blatently think that everyone should be on board to give full credit to one sole relgion for entire the holdiay season, give me a break. Canada hasn't been that nieve since never. What's wrong with being polite? Saying happy holidays means you wish the person well during the season and acknowledge that maybe not everyone is celebrating the birth of christ. As a christian if someone said happy holidays to me I would take it as a compliment rather than an attack against the influence of my religion.
As for the holiday tree thing... do other religions use a tree to put presents under during the holidays? I honestly don't know. If they do then I agree that its fair to call it a holiday tree. If Christianity is the only religion that does, then I think its fair to keep calling them christmas trees since they represent something solely christian.

I wrote this at 6am after a night out (sober, but tired) so hopefully it gets my point across the way I intended.

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Originally posted by Lightshow i wear sunglasses for the same reason everybody wears them in a club. 1: people look cool in sunglasses 2: it gets awefully bright as the night progresses

*nusty does not wear sunglasses at night, they make it hard to see and you could trip

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You got it wrong.

The minority is silenceing the majority. The majority had traditions and the minority took them away. Having Christmas isnt taking away anything from anyone. If anything it's adding to their experiences. Just as I would expect that newcomers would want to share their experiences with us.

Again i must restate that true multicultarlism does not mean wiping everything that is cultural off the map. It means embracing ALL cultures and ESPECIALLY the founding one. Inclusivness means including the majority as well, not taking away a country's traditions.

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard It is also a civil holiday (by way of it's inclusion into statutory law), therefore even void of any religious context there is a holiday on December 25th and it is called CHRISTMAS in this country.

true.. yet it saddens me to think that children are now brought up celebrating Christmas with all the presents and traditions but without even acknowledging how it all started and why the holiday exists in the first place

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Originally posted by AdReNaLiNa true.. yet it saddens me to think that children are now brought up celebrating Christmas with all the presents and traditions but without even acknowledging how it all started and why the holiday exists in the first place

you mean having a holiday that promotes the family being together and leaving out the cult like aspects of religion. meh. I'm not really concerned. As long as the values are still being instilled then I think thats more valuable.

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Originally posted by Lightshow i wear sunglasses for the same reason everybody wears them in a club. 1: people look cool in sunglasses 2: it gets awefully bright as the night progresses

*nusty does not wear sunglasses at night, they make it hard to see and you could trip

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Originally posted by Jayx1 You got it wrong. The minority is silenceing the majority. The majority had traditions and the minority took them away. Having Christmas isnt taking away anything from anyone. If anything it's adding to their experiences. Just as I would expect that newcomers would want to share their experiences with us. Again i must restate that true multicultarlism does not mean wiping everything that is cultural off the map. It means embracing ALL cultures and ESPECIALLY the founding one. Inclusivness means including the majority as well, not taking away a country's traditions.

Actually true multiculturalism doesn't put one faith above another.
The minority isn't silencing the majority, simply asking to be included in the considerations of the holiday season. Seems to me calling it the holidays is pretty fair middle ground for all faiths.

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Originally posted by Lightshow i wear sunglasses for the same reason everybody wears them in a club. 1: people look cool in sunglasses 2: it gets awefully bright as the night progresses

*nusty does not wear sunglasses at night, they make it hard to see and you could trip

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Originally posted by Jayx1 You got it wrong. The minority is silenceing the majority. The majority had traditions and the minority took them away. Having Christmas isnt taking away anything from anyone. If anything it's adding to their experiences. Just as I would expect that newcomers would want to share their experiences with us. Again i must restate that true multicultarlism does not mean wiping everything that is cultural off the map. It means embracing ALL cultures and ESPECIALLY the founding one. Inclusivness means including the majority as well, not taking away a country's traditions.

Ooooh, that's one hot tamale you throw out there Jay!

The founding culture eh? Is that why everyone is starting to wear mukluks?

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Originally posted by nusty Actually true multiculturalism doesn't put one faith above another. The minority isn't silencing the majority, simply asking to be included in the considerations of the holiday season. Seems to me calling it the holidays is pretty fair middle ground for all faiths.

Werd!

Hey Dave, now we can have our little Pagan Sacrifice Holiday!

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Originally posted by Chiclet Werd! Hey Dave, now we can have our little Pagan Sacrifice Holiday!

oooh can we do it with a holiday bush? lol. I couldn't resist.

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Originally posted by Lightshow i wear sunglasses for the same reason everybody wears them in a club. 1: people look cool in sunglasses 2: it gets awefully bright as the night progresses

*nusty does not wear sunglasses at night, they make it hard to see and you could trip

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Originally posted by nusty Actually true multiculturalism doesn't put one faith above another. The minority isn't silencing the majority, simply asking to be included in the considerations of the holiday season. Seems to me calling it the holidays is pretty fair middle ground for all faiths.

no thats neutralizing it. if i wish you a merry christmas, just feel free to respond with happy chunukah or whatever your tradition happens to say for example.

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

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Originally posted by Chiclet Ooooh, that's one hot tamale you throw out there Jay! The founding culture eh? Is that why everyone is starting to wear mukluks?

Well you know what i mean. The founding culture of modern canada is without a doubt english and french based on catholic/prodestant religions.

you shit disturber.. lol

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Originally posted by jester Everything in this country is illegal.

"Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery…" Winston Churchill

‎"If you have ten thousand regulations you destroy all respect for the law" - Winston Churchill

goin back to the whole "its holidays regardless" well celebrate the holidays in summer with cards and gifts and trees....geez

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