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Lira
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Registered: Nov 2001
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quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
yea but does being born in a country make you that nationality? i mean, if someone from a chinese background was born in france, do they say they are french or chinese?

Ancestry means very little - in most cases, it just doesn't mean anything at all.

If a person has Chinese background, is born in France, grows up in France, they're as Chinese as Chop Suey - it may even try to be Chinese, but it's not. Even though the whole ancestry/nationality/ethnic group thing is nothing but a flawed social construct, if you tried to place these individuals in a spectrum where you have an "ideal Chinese" (as someone who would fit completely into a Chinese concept of what a Chinese person should be like) and an "ideal French" (as someone who would fit completely into a French concept of what a French person should be like), it's very difficult to believe that they would be anywhere near the "ideal Chinese" end of the spectrum, in spite of what they might believe. Unless, of course, the person is completely deprived from the culture of the country they live in, which is not likely to happen in any urban environment, although in this case they'd be in touch with the culture of their homeland with a certain delay of years or decades, which would bring yet another difference. I'd keep talking about it, but I gotta go.

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im adopted from south korea but lived in france my whole life since i left korea when i was 5 months old ....i never went back there yet and don't know any korean or don't even speak the language ....so what do u think i am ?korean or french?

i consider myself 100 % french .....my habit and all make me french ....i only have an asian appearance ...

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im adopted from south korea but lived in france my whole life since i left korea when i was 5 months old ....i never went back there yet and don't know any korean or don't even speak the language ....so what do u think i am ?korean or french?

i consider myself 100 % french .....my habit and all make me french ....i only have an asian appearance ...


Id say that makes you French, and of Korean descent


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quote:
Originally posted by Lira
Ancestry means very little - in most cases, it just doesn't mean anything at all.

If a person has Chinese background, is born in France, grows up in France, they're as Chinese as Chop Suey - it may even try to be Chinese, but it's not. Even though the whole ancestry/nationality/ethnic group thing is nothing but a flawed social construct, if you tried to place these individuals in a spectrum where you have an "ideal Chinese" (as someone who would fit completely into a Chinese concept of what a Chinese person should be like) and an "ideal French" (as someone who would fit completely into a French concept of what a French person should be like), it's very difficult to believe that they would be anywhere near the "ideal Chinese" end of the spectrum, in spite of what they might believe. Unless, of course, the person is completely deprived from the culture of the country they live in, which is not likely to happen in any urban environment, although in this case they'd be in touch with the culture of their homeland with a certain delay of years or decades, which would bring yet another difference. I'd keep talking about it, but I gotta go.

Alright, back to my self-imposed ostracism


KGracias for confusing me more.


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English accents are HAWT! But I'll take Russian over those Brits anyday, and twice on Sundays.


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Slylee
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Originally posted by Moongoose
Thats true i guess, however one would expect that the people who do bussines outside the borders of their contry would know basic english.

I have been slowly learning japanse anyway, since its been my wish for a long time to visit japan



BTW english accents ftw!


well i lived in japan for 2 years and i tried to learn as much as i could. i knew enough to get by out in town, but that's it. i didn't walk around expecting everyone to speak english...although a lot of them did speak it in the bigger cities, and they were eager to run up to americans to practice their english, it was kind funny.


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man i can't believe i tried to come off as responsible in that other thread, i am so full of shit just don't tell anyone

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Slylee
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Id say that makes you French, and of Korean descent


Or a French citizen? i mean let's just say someone is curious as to what asian country she is from, so they're like, "oh what nationality are you?" when she says "oh i'm french" they're gonna be like, "umm, ok". so i agree with this.


and i agree with lira's post too.


if someone is asking me what nationality i am, obviously i'm american, but i assume they mean like what descent...so i just say, "oh i'm a mixture of irish/french/german".


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man i can't believe i tried to come off as responsible in that other thread, i am so full of shit just don't tell anyone

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From now on im just not gonna pick.

I can't pick.


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UN Flag FTW.

ALlied Nations Ftw.


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Moongoose
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quote:
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well i lived in japan for 2 years


Really? thats rather cool Where were you living? There are so many places in japan i would want to wisit i would have to take a 2 month vecation to visit them all


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i love the accent.


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