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narcism
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Registered: Jul 2002
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dont know why everyone is bashing armin
matt darey has been doing this for years

Old Post Dec-18-2005 11:31  Malta
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basd
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Registered: Jul 2002
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Originally posted by RebeL9
the best is if the warm up djs doesnt play the same tracks as the headliner but still outshines him. then there are no excuses for Arminz and tieztorz "oh u damn warmupper you played tracks from my label, i am not in the spotlight no longer!! curse u!!!"


Hehe.

Too bad too many openers, especially newcomers, don't really look any further than the top 20 lists of their favourite DJs.


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Old Post Dec-18-2005 14:46  Netherlands
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RebeL9
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Registered: Nov 2001
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Hehe.

Too bad too many openers, especially newcomers, don't really look any further than the top 20 lists of their favourite DJs.


I know. it's sad.


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Old Post Dec-18-2005 15:39  Afghanistan
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noikeee
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Originally posted by Boomer187
heh, warming up doesn't mean you have to play slow crappy music. There are good tunes that are not peak songs. So you wont hear 3 hours of pre-designated music. To me an opener will get ya moving a bit and keep it interesting. The good openers Ive seen have played grooving sets, even peaked once er so about a half hour 45 mins before the headline and it was good.

one reason I still think openers should keep it calm came from the night I first saw eddie halliwell and ferry corsten. We had our usual opener play for an hour, just some prog type stuff, then eddie got on. He started slow for a half hour and then went off for like an hour or an hour and a half. I mean went off, then ferry got on and it just kinda went down from there. yea Ferry played a great set, but after eddie tore it up it wasn't the same.


then I saw oakenfold play before halliwell. That worked soo much better, Oaky played just some prog/trance type tunes, nothing too good and then eddie tore it up. Much better night.


maybe its just me but I don't think I can dance to peak music for 6 hours a night. I like the build up of slower grooving dancing before I go insane.


Totally agreed. Warm up sets don't have to be necessarily shit music, neither they have to be slow all the time. What they have to do is to prepare the crowd to the next dj. A little buildup of 3-4 faster tracks in the end of it can be really good.


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Old Post Dec-18-2005 15:47  Portugal
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Zombie0915




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Tiesto was at Nation in DC summer of 2004, a TA who calls himself empath opened up for him, he played quite a nice trance set that supposedly angered tiesto's manager.

I think all the big headliner DJ's have this policy to keep their opener from outshining them.

That party had way too many people, couldnt move, germ infested kids, standing in line for 3 hours in the rain, it made me sick and I had to drive for 5 hours to get home when it was over.

Personally I think the crowd should get to choose who gets to play the peak music rather than the celebrity dj's manager, It would be quite hilarious to book an international headliner and put him in that warmup timeslot before a local, muahahahah

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feidias
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Registered: Jul 2005
Location: Nicosia,Cyprus

From my view:

-If the gig was somethin like a line up then the agency of Armin shouldn't do that cause in that way they are really insultin the other djs.If the agency didn't like the idea of that gig then they shouldn't sign armin into that event,they should organise events with the only hoster being armin (does this reminds you of some concerts around?)
-If the night was just an ordinary event pre - purposed for armin then the agency should bring its personal warm up djs so they could control the night throughout

Old Post Dec-18-2005 18:59  Cyprus
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Col
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Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Montreal, QC

When exactly does this happen?

I was at Godskitchen last night in fact, Armin was headlining.
He was supported by Judge Jules, and anyone who has seen Jules will know he doesn't play damp 130bpm stuff...

And most of the time Armin is supported by Jon O'Bir at GK. That guy absolutely rocks the place.

As for the Armada tracks thing, that just seems normal to me. If I was headlining an event, I wouldn't want some warm-up DJ to spin all my trademark material before I'd had the chance to.


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isoterra
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Nottingham, UK

quote:
Originally posted by Col
When exactly does this happen?

I was at Godskitchen last night in fact, Armin was headlining.
He was supported by Judge Jules, and anyone who has seen Jules will know he doesn't play damp 130bpm stuff...

And most of the time Armin is supported by Jon O'Bir at GK. That guy absolutely rocks the place.

As for the Armada tracks thing, that just seems normal to me. If I was headlining an event, I wouldn't want some warm-up DJ to spin all my trademark material before I'd had the chance to.


i wondered something similar... jon o'bir warmed up for tiesto at the same place back in april and pretty much bashed it out... though brought the set gently back down towards the end

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Omega_Blue
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Registered: Dec 2003
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i have nothing to add other than this is a great thread. good opinions out there

Old Post Dec-19-2005 05:53  United States
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DJ Shibby
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Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Of Earthzen and the Therethen

wow, that is FUCKED. I'm never going to this guy's shows again. A lesson in mediocrity.

Old Post Dec-19-2005 09:07  United States
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AngusG
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Registered: Dec 2005
Location: Brisbane

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wow, that is FUCKED. I'm never going to this guy's shows again. A lesson in mediocrity.


i wouldn't write him off just like that... and u've just read that he's far from the only dj to do that

Old Post Dec-19-2005 09:14  Australia
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john2
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Registered: Aug 2003
Location: Heraklion Crete,Greece

Markus Schulz (or Gabriel & Dresden) could be a great openner for Armin ,although sometimes Markus goes up to 135BPM and Armin starts from 130BPM.Sometimes big name dj's should leave the prog trance part to the warm up dj's as most people pay x$ to listen to trance music from Armin and not prog trance.Apart from that i agree that you can't play tunes that the next dj will play,damn i'd say not to play even a different remix from a tune the next one will play.Warming up a crowd is great,there are so many great low-tempo tunes that can drive mad a crowd,it doesn't have to be 140BPM a tune to get the people moving


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Old Post Dec-19-2005 10:32  Greece
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