i've been going to trance/house events for the past 4years
i havent done any kind of drugs once and i dont need to
if you do need to then you've got issues and you dont like the music, you like the drug
also i can dance and have fun longer than any drug user there is, for example last night at guv came at 11 left at like 7am, danced for like 5 hours straiught then took a break then danced some more.
you might think its ok now, look at yourself in 15-20 years.

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Originally posted by geroin if you do need to then you've got issues and you dont like the music, you like the drug

i wouldnt say that.
i know that you can party sober but not everyone is capable of doing that. it also doesnt mean that they do it for the drug rather than the music.
i love EDM. its as simple as that. i listen to it all day and all night, whether i am at home or driving and those are the times that i am sober. i have been going to EDM clubs since i was 16 (which was.... 1994/1995). it is all that i listen to. the drugs just enhances the way the music sounds and the way it makes you feel. with mdma, it enhances whatever feeling you are experiencing at that particular moment. if you are happy then you are happy x 100. if you are sad then you are sad x 100. being in a room with music that you enjoy and people that you feel comfortable with almost guarantees a good time. its just not healthy to be so dependant on drugs to enjoy yourself.

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Originally posted by geroin i've been going to trance/house events for the past 4years i havent done any kind of drugs once and i dont need to if you do need to then you've got issues and you dont like the music, you like the drug also i can dance and have fun longer than any drug user there is, for example last night at guv came at 11 left at like 7am, danced for like 5 hours straiught then took a break then danced some more. you might think its ok now, look at yourself in 15-20 years.

While I respect your choice to say no; you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to the use of drugs themselves. I'm pretty sure a drug user can stay longer in a club than 11-7am. And just because they like the drugs doesn't mean they DON'T like the music.

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Originally posted by chinamon i wouldnt say that. i know that you can party sober but not everyone is capable of doing that. it also doesnt mean that they do it for the drug rather than the music. i love EDM. its as simple as that. i listen to it all day and all night, whether i am at home or driving and those are the times that i am sober. it is all that i listen to. the drugs just enhances the way the music sounds and the way it makes you feel. with mdma, it enhances whatever feeling you are experiencing at that particular moment. if you are happy then you are happy x 100. if you are sad then you are sad x 100. being in a room with music that you enjoy and people that you feel comfortable with almost guarantees a good time.

i don't know if he means if do do drugs you don't like the music, or if he means if you HAVE to do drugs to enjoy a night out than you don't like the music. B/c if it's the latter, i think he's right.

I personally don't even care if people need the drugs in order to have a good time at afterhours events. It's the dependency in general and the frequency of usage that matters.

Some people (generally the most addicted) combine afterhours and drugs into one idea. So instead of doing drugs every week, they're just partying every week, and instead of detox, they're just "taking a break from partying".

If you go out once every 3 months and pop a pill each time, I really don't think it's going to have any negative effect. However, if you're popping a pill (or more) every week, no matter what the circumstances are, and can't imagine going more than a week without one, you've got a psychological dependency; and it DOES influence your behaviour, whether or not you're aware of it.

As I said before - most things are good in moderation, most things are bad in excess.

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2009-02-21 - DJ Attention @ I'm So Popular
2009-06-18 - DJ Annoying @ People Need To Know Where I'll Be
2012-11-32 - DJ Insufferable ɸ Or At Least the Stalkers I Complain About
2048-06-66 - Spastic & Whocares ¶ Although I'm Actually Flattered
9999-45-81 - Tweaker Gimp ☼ I Probably Won't Even Go To This But I Have To Make Sure I Fill Up All The Available Space Here

Once i thought i am addicted to E cause i was doing it atleast once in 2 weeks since summer,but now i am sober for 5 weeks and not planning to pop for a while and i also have no problems in my life. NO memory lost no nothing.


so my recommandation do what feels right to do! like who cares life's so short!

wow...you must *really* love the music if you have trouble being sober when you're out clubbin!

imagine if you love your future life partner this much...

Okay, you yourself will never be able to personally judge the extent of the damage to your memory due to E. You will never be able to distinguish not remembering something just because sometimes everybody forgets, and not remembering something because of E. Stop saying your memory is fine - you don't know that.

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I'm the fear-addicted, danger illustrated.

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Originally posted by chinamon blast rails

I swear I have never heard of this............

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur Okay, you yourself will never be able to personally judge the extent of the damage to your memory due to E. You will never be able to distinguish not remembering something just because sometimes everybody forgets, and not remembering something because of E. Stop saying your memory is fine - you don't know that.

my memory is just fine

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur Okay, you yourself will never be able to personally judge the extent of the damage to your memory due to E. You will never be able to distinguish not remembering something just because sometimes everybody forgets, and not remembering something because of E. Stop saying your memory is fine - you don't know that.

my memory is just fine !

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