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What were you do about Iran?
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Do whatever the world/EU says. 7 10.77%
Go to the UN and impose sanctions, if that fails go to a military strike. 23 35.38%
Go to the UN and impose sanctions, if that fails do nothing. 6 9.23%
We've been patient long enough; launch a quick and massive surgical strike against Iranian balistic and nuclear sites. 12 18.46%
Write Iran a very, very mean letter! 17 26.15%
Total: 65 votes 100%
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sensorium
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Registered: Jun 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by gouuryella
Dear Iran,

We are nuking your ass off.

Love,
George W. Bush


I don't think Bush writes that good. Where are the mistakes?


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Old Post Jan-22-2006 06:07  United States
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Yoepus
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Ketchup fields, Texas

quote:
Originally posted by gouuryella
I cant believe how stupid most people are puttin the letter as an option, seriously. I mean, if they havent listened to us all this time, what difference will the letter make?


Haven't you been following this thread?!?

We aren't writing them just any old letter, no!

We are writing them a very, very mean letter!

And mean letters always work


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TranceGiant
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don't send teh lettar.....


Actualy, I think a coup from the inside (Ahmadinejad is not very popular at all, not even amongst the conservative mullahs who despise his irrational behavior) is far more likely than a military strike form the US and or Israel in the near future.


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quote:
Originally posted by TranceGiant
don't send teh lettar.....


Actualy, I think a coup from the inside (Ahmadinejad is not very popular at all, not even amongst the conservative mullahs who despise his irrational behavior) is far more likely than a military strike form the US and or Israel in the near future.


I dont want to repeat everything again from start, but you see about the coup and Iranians hating Ahmadinejad is what CNN tells you. Its a propaganda war, in reality Iranianans love him and he has full support of Hardliners as he himself is one of them.

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Every vote for me, will be a bullet in the heart of USA.


Thats what Ahmadinejad said during his elections campaign and he won with 'majority'.


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Lepanto
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Registered: Jul 2005
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So Iranians want war. You moron you're advocating a full military strike with no concern for civilians if you say they are fully behind him...AND ALL OF THEM TO BOOT..when that's clearly not a fact. What gobbledegook you grmuble. Wow.


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Kapedano
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Registered: Apr 2005
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quote:
Originally posted by sensorium
I don't think Bush writes that good. Where are the mistakes?


He used Microsoft Word and the spelling check feature on it .

Old Post Jan-22-2006 19:00  Albania
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Prague, Czech Republic

quote:
Originally posted by Yoepus
So its the USA's fault that Iran and North Korea are developign WMD?


Well, in a way, yes.

In 2002 Bush named Iran as a member of the "axis of evil". In the years since then, Iran has had the benefit of being able to sit back and observe how the US has treated the other two nations that it considered to be part of this "axis". Iraq, which didn't have WMDs, got the ever-loving shit kicked out of it. North Korea, which does have WMDs (supposedly, at least) has got to sit around a table for the past two years with the biggest nations in the world and dictate terms to them. Based on the Bush administration's duplicity in dealing with "axis of evil" states in these cases, can you really blame Iran for thinking that building a nuclear bomb is the best way to protect itself from a fate like Iraq's and to gain itself a strong international bargaining chip in the process?

And I think that this is what's most important to understand about Iran's rationale: they aren't aiming to develop nuclear weapons for aggressive purposes, but rather for defensive ones. I've seen no evidence - current or historical - to suggest that Iran is a militarily aggressive state, with regards to either the expansion of its territories or ideology (after all, the US has done enough to ensure the rise of Shia Islam in the region as it is). In this case, much of the hyperbole in this thread about the dangers of Iran developing nuclear bombs is largely unfounded. None of the current nuclear states developed nuclear weapons for aggressive purposes and I'm not sure why we should immediately suspect that Iran's aims would be any more malevolent, or any more of a threat to global security.

Having said that, I do disagree strongly with any state - let alone an unstable, theocratic one like Iran - being allowed to develop a nuclear weapons program. There are enough of them in the world today as it is. So my solution to prevent Iran from "getting the bomb" would be firstly, yes, to write a very angry letter, with exclamation points and angry looking emoticons and everything. If that doesn't work (it won't) then - short of a long, drawn-out, multilateral negotiation process (a la North Korea) - sanctions really are the only option. To prevent the sort of horrors that occurred under Iraqi sanctions, however, they should be specifically targetted - say a complete ban on military trade. To drive the point home, the UN should also threaten sanctions upon any nation that provides Iran with the equipment it needs to produce the weapons - after all, Iran won't be able to get there without outside help.

And if none of that works? Targetted military strikes perhaps, although that could end up causing more problems than it solves. I guess we'll cross that bridge when we get to it...


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Registered: Apr 2005
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Does Austrailia have a nuke? Because i guess Australia desearves to have a nuke because they have been kissing our american ass since the iraqi war.

Back to Iran. I'd say let there be war. It will cost hundreds of thousands of lives and the American people would be upset that this war would cost billions of dollars while I will not be upset this time and invest my money in URS!!! Since the start of the Iraqi war there stockprice went from $24 to $40! I could have made so much money it just upsets me that I missed out.

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Lepanto
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Nope Iranian war would have much more support included from Europe so no you're theory, as always, is babble.


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Nope Iranian war would have much more support included from Europe so no you're theory, as always, is babble.



get lost noob


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Lepanto
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get lost noob


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Old Post Jan-22-2006 20:55  United States
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Cyrus King
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Registered: Oct 2001
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Renegade took the words right out of my mouth.

Although i truly despise the people in power that control iran... i still agree that if they feel threatened by any nation... they should be allowed to develop nuclear weapons if they want. Any nation knows that using a nuclear weapon would ultimately lead to their own destruction, however, any leaders wouldnt want to see their own nation destroyed. They know better than that.

Nukes enable a nation to be taken seriously as opposed to a nation that can just be attacked.

Look at pakistan.. they have nukes and its also a fundementalist muslim nation.

OIL.. it all comes down to US interests in oil and domination of states that CAN be attacked.

North Korea can NEVER be attacked... Pakistan can NEVER be attacked.

If Iraq had a nuke .. The iraq war would never have happened.


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