i thought electro didn't exist?

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Originally posted by Marc Summers i thought electro didn't exist?

As far as you're concerned, it doesn't.

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I started electro.

Then radagast followed.

Then sasha.

Now you guys.

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Originally posted by beats and beeps I started electro. Then radagast followed. Then sasha. Now you guys.

are you a reincarnation of a still living kraftwerk member?

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Originally posted by Vainqueur The whole idea of pop music is that you don't have to get into it and understand the whole concept to like it. It is universal and just plain lacks specifics. Electro however is a scene, and it is a culture.

its nice to know that you didnt even mention that it was a type of music.

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Originally posted by ivanbee freestylers?

No. Freestyle, close but no cigar. They proceeded bambaataa

http://www.discogs.com/release/45151

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Originally posted by Radagast As far as you're concerned, it doesn't.

Or am I thinking "Electronica"?

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Originally posted by Radagast ^^^You're not too bright, buddy. Let me put it to you this way. The first 'electro scene' was synonymous with the b-boy scene in North America, because of its use of breakbeats and ties with hip hop. The first 'scene' in which electro flourished was the streets of New York, onto which it was transported by Kraftwerk and Afrika Bambaataa in the late 70's and early 80's. Alright?

Let me correct your sentence for you.

Created by Kraftwerk in the late 70's, transported by Kraftwerk in the late 70's to early 80s.

Kraftwerk was touring from 1975 to 1981 promoting their albums and doing live shows. They even preformed in the united states. Clearly this should account for a definition in the scene, initiated by their tours. Baker picked up on this, sampled and reworked Kraftwerks material. Recycling of sounds occured in North america and the scene grew. This makes more sense.

i was cleaning out my parents attic yesterday and i came across this record...

ronnie jones - video games (1982)

is this electro?

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Originally posted by LieberDJ Let me correct your sentence for you. Created by Kraftwerk in the late 70's, transported by Kraftwerk in the late 70's to early 80s. Kraftwerk was touring from 1975 to 1981 promoting their albums and doing live shows. They even preformed in the united states. Clearly this should account for a definition in the scene, initiated by their tours. Baker picked up on this, sampled and reworked Kraftwerks material. Recycling of sounds occured in North america and the scene grew. This makes more sense.

Kraftwerk didn't tour or promote in New York, did they. Even if they did, the scene was in New York, and it was initiated by Bambaata/Baker sampling and reworking Kraftwerk in 1982. Planet Rock went Gold before the end of the year, setting off a slew of imitators, and subsequently the very first Electro scene. Followed shortly by Los Angeles, Miami, and to a smaller extent, Detroit. The reason I mention Kraftwerk in the late 70's is because their music was played on black radio stations in New York, which is how Baker and Bambaataa found it in the first place.

Bambaataa was a DJ in the late 70's, and he played Kraftwerk (Trans Europe Express) at black parties before he finally met Baker and Robie, and helped make Planet Rock in '81 when 'Numbers' was released. Grandmaster Flash was also doing the same thing. Black radio and black DJ's brought Kraftwerk to New York. As a result, the very first "electro" scene was born there. Without Kraftwerk there would have been no Electro scene, but they didn't really actively transport their music onto the streets of New York.

You're looking at "electro scene" from the wrong perspective. It wasn't its own seperate independent "scene" then. At the time, the "electro" scene was synonymous with the "hip hop" scene. They were one and the same, and most "electro" records were in fact "electro-hop", fusing hip hop and Electro.

If anyone helped bring the ideas of Krafwerk to New York through touring, it was probably Gary Numan, who played his popular Kraftwerk-inspired works in his 1978/'79 tours of North America(including New York).

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Last edited by Radagast on Jan-29-2006 at 01:56