I sure hope so, but this is a particularly strong fad that seems to have survived since the mid 80s if you are refering to Exstacy specifically, if you mean the general practice of mixing drugs and music then it has existed since forever and will probably not go away.

I think Rolling will die out eventually, I find that the kids who take drugs and go to parties to get high usually burn out in a couple years and leave it all behind. But there always seems to be new kids to replace those people. Then there are those kids who take come for the drugs then grow to love the music over time even after their drug taking days are over. The whole practice of going to EDM parties and taking drugs is definately losing its coolness, partying is alot less glamourous these days and seems to be more of a stress releif ritual than a hedonistic celebration. One could argue that there is less to celebrate these days compared to years past.

I think at the end of it all, only the people who truely love this music will stay involved, it is only a matter of time before this stuff fades away into obscurity, and when that happens only the kids who really like it will remain, just like you said.

To tell you the truth I am not a big party type of guy, I wouldn't mind if the whole club industry just died out. I enjoy ameteur gatherings better anyway, organizing a group of kids to take some speakers out on the beach, that is the type of thing I enjoy, much more than driving up to new york and paying 30 dollars for entry into some fancy decorated room where everybody endlessly persues the "cool" thing like a giant flock of sheep. Clubbers are a really snotty type of people, I enjoy the sounds of this music but I hate the big egos and the trend whoring. With the proper group of friends though, great things can be done with this music, it is surprisingly easy to weed out those clubber jackasses and have a really good time with music and dancing the way it was meant to be.

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Originally posted by Zombie0915 I sure hope so, but this is a particularly strong fad that seems to have survived since the mid 80s if you are refering to Exstacy specifically, if you mean the general practice of mixing drugs and music then it has existed since forever and will probably not go away. I think Rolling will die out eventually, I find that the kids who take drugs and go to parties to get high usually burn out in a couple years and leave it all behind. But there always seems to be new kids to replace those people. Then there are those kids who take come for the drugs then grow to love the music over time even after their drug taking days are over. The whole practice of going to EDM parties and taking drugs is definately losing its coolness, partying is alot less glamourous these days and seems to be more of a stress releif ritual than a hedonistic celebration. One could argue that there is less to celebrate these days compared to years past. I think at the end of it all, only the people who truely love this music will stay involved, it is only a matter of time before this stuff fades away into obscurity, and when that happens only the kids who really like it will remain, just like you said. To tell you the truth I am not a big party type of guy, I wouldn't mind if the whole club industry just died out. I enjoy ameteur gatherings better anyway, organizing a group of kids to take some speakers out on the beach, that is the type of thing I enjoy, much more than driving up to new york and paying 30 dollars for entry into some fancy decorated room where everybody endlessly persues the "cool" thing like a giant flock of sheep. Clubbers are a really snotty type of people, I enjoy the sounds of this music but I hate the big egos and the trend whoring. With the proper group of friends though, great things can be done with this music, it is surprisingly easy to weed out those clubber jackasses and have a really good time with music and dancing the way it was meant to be.

I wouldn't be too quick to judge the clubbers...I went to Spirit this past Friday and actually met alot of cool people...but there are a lot of Lee hotiis lol

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Originally posted by DJ Indus Creed Also, the fundamental premise that Trance originated from rave-parties is also debatable and so are the claims that it has its origins in the drug-parties.

That's a debate you'd loose in a heartbeat.


Hmn. If trance goes the way of rock and hip hop (re: complete sell-out to appeal to the vast majority for maximum profit, which I'm surprised a great number of trance fans seem to desire just so they can be socially acceptable), then yes, the drug connection will begin to fade from public perception. No one equates Starship or Will Smith with their scenes' typical drug usage, after all (although it could be argued prolonged exposure to such acts may lead to substance abuse).

That doesn't mean it won't go away, though. The smaller scenes will still retain the original ethos of what the music was about, and the substances that it was associated with it as well.

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Originally posted by DJ Indus Creed Unworldly, TOTY Poll had 32 tracks in 4 groups. How many and which of them can you identify as the ones intended for drug-users and that the DJ had to take drug-use "into consideration and make music which is specifically pleasurable to kids on exstacy"?

Just quickly skimmed through the thread again and it truely saddens me to see such negative generalisations of ecstasy and other drug users by some people.

Will read over all replies and comment tomorrow.

* Off to Qlimax now

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Originally posted by paranoik0 trance was originally made for drugs. it ended up as something made for your mom to listen to while she cleans the house.

HAHAHA, but honestly I never heard of any moms listening to trance.

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Originally posted by Trance Addix HAHAHA, but honestly I never heard of any moms listening to trance.

My mother loves trance. She has a huge cd selection. If I could only get her to like deep progressive trance...

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Now that I think about it--not too long ago, I let my mom listen to AVB live from Spirit and she liked it.