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Originally posted by King Luis and i agree that the bigger name dj's should be playing as late. but what can you do when there is 4 big name dj's that don't want to play before 12 (midnight) and want to do a 2 hour set minimum? when i heard that buuren was only coming on at 4 at decadence, i was bummed out cause i wanted to hear him come on earlier but i also wanted oakie to play a good set too.

why cant we have parties on saturdays and sundays taht start at say noon at least in the summer time. and maybe end around midnight or so? this way the bar will be open and it falls in regular sleep schedule.

i know that there are sunset parties all over the world on the beach and all and well we might not have beaches around here but we could maybe have something along those lines

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard Alright, I feel the need to weigh in on this. Drugs are good, very good, but only if used correctly. There is time and place for everything but one must be careful to use only what substances are necessary/desired to acheive the type of party enhancement they are looking for and only in the minimum quantities required. Ideally, intoxicants (of all types) should be used only to highten an experience. If you're losing control of yourself or blacking out large blocks of time then chances are you've failed to obtain the intended goals of your substance use and subsequently you should reevaluate your activities. I think everyone knows I use certain substances regularly so I certainly cannot and quite frankly would not preach abstaining from drug use, however, knowing what to take, when, and in what quantity is key.

See, here is where I disagree. The belief that "as long as the thin ice is not cracking beneath you, you're doing no harm" is the wrong message to send.

I'm not trying to push anyone to be clean and sober, nor do I look down upon people who do drugs, but I cannot relate to preaching to an entire community that it's ok to do drugs. Let them make the decision, and do your part by either saying nothing, or advising to leave it alone.

We're developing a society of people who are growing up to think that drugs are alright in moderation, when 15 years ago, only a minute percentage believed that. We are on a track that, in 15 years, it will only be a minute percentage that does not accept that notion as truth.

What's worse is the fact that a lot of people brag about their drug escapades to the younger people who consider these guys there mentors and are still vulnerable and get influenced easily. I made the mistake of telling my younger brother back in India, that i roll at parties every now and then and just the other day, he told me that he would like to try E and it made me sick to my stomach knowing that what I say and consider harmless to talk about could actually influence someone close to me to do something i wouldnt want him/her to.

I have nothing against the personal habits of people but i would like to use this thread to issue out a plea especially to the seasoned clubbers to be more discreet about their habits because there are younger people out there who interpret everything you say as 'Cool'.

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Originally posted by DigitalMP when 15 years ago, only a minute percentage believed that. We are on a track that, in 15 years, it will only be a minute percentage that does not accept that notion as truth.

that's a stretch...
People have been doing drugs for many many years. it's the environment that's changed.

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Originally posted by raveed What's worse is the fact that a lot of people brag about their drug escapades to the younger people who consider these guys there mentors and are still vulnerable and get influenced easily. I made the mistake of telling my younger brother back in India, that i roll at parties every now and then and just the other day, he told me that he would like to try E and it made me sick to my stomach knowing that what I say and consider harmless to talk about could actually influence someone close to me to do something i wouldnt want him/her to. I have nothing against the personal habits of people but i would like to use this thread to issue out a plea especially to the seasoned clubbers to be more discreet about their habits because there are younger people out there who interpret everything you say as 'Cool'.

Again, why I think it would be a good idea to rid this board of blatant drug discussion, if moderation was up for the task.

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Originally posted by Skipper that's a stretch... People have been doing drugs for many many years. it's the environment that's changed.

and the types of drugs...

p.s. - this thread should be stickied/

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Originally posted by raveed I have nothing against the personal habits of people but i would like to use this thread to issue out a plea especially to the seasoned clubbers to be more discreet about their habits

thats where that sentence should end. keep ur drug usage to urself basically.






(by urself i didnt mean u.)

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Originally posted by Skipper that's a stretch... People have been doing drugs for many many years. it's the environment that's changed.

Many more than the 15 year span I outlined, and that's when EDM really began to blossom. We are the environment.

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Originally posted by Superstring Last week at Decadence AvB came on after 4. What's more, he came on at 5:30(!!!) at BeB. I almost feel like the perceived notion is that you have to be on Red Bull and E just to last it through until 8 or 9, when the set is done. For my friends and myself who don't load up RB/E, it's getting tough to even stay up until 5, let alone dance after that (keeping in mind our day jobs and commitments). Perhaps if the headliner sets where done at 2 or even 3, the drug use would decrease?

i entirely agree

if headliners came on at 11 pm and finished say at around 4, that would be perfect.

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Originally posted by El Kay Dee why cant we have parties on saturdays and sundays taht start at say noon at least in the summer time. and maybe end around midnight or so? this way the bar will be open and it falls in regular sleep schedule. i know that there are sunset parties all over the world on the beach and all and well we might not have beaches around here but we could maybe have something along those lines

Agreed ........ 100%....

Why cant a venue like Docks put on something like Decadance... Or even a party at the Guv, with AC on and Skybar open.

What happened to those open tent parties and "festivals"?...

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard I find quite the contrary, I find that the proper mix of substance will make the night more vivid to me, better, more exciting, more fun, and the memories tend to be more cherished. That said, if you overendulge (as I did at US9) and find yourself missing big blocks of memory from the night then clearly you've detracted from the experience. As the old Molson Ex commercials said "it's all about balance."

i cant say i agree... ive done both, and now 95% of the time the later, and although yes, at the moment its more vivid, and memories seem like they will be more cherished, in the long run they fade much much quicker.

also when ur on something ur not urself, no matter how much u argue this, u arnt. u come back with what i think are more of a false memory, a false impression left on people, a false impression of the night. im not saying completly false, just not as true as it would be had u chosen to go sober.

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