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Originally posted by Slylee try growing up as a male being 6'2 and weighing about 140 and trying everything in your power to NOT look like a damn skeleton.

Sounds like superficiality to me.

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or how about having a passion (and natural talent) for wrestling where you have to make weight to be in certain competitions.

Ok fair enough, that's different.

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it's not always about vanity and let's talk about every time you go out clubbing and put on your best outfit and do your hair and makeup. same shit, so shut up.

I rarely wear make-up. Or fuss over my hair. And I never said I was perfect, nor was my statement a comaprison to anything I did. Sorry you took it so personally. I was referring more to the people that just jack themselves up for the sake of "looking good". I'm sorry, but I really don't think a lot of the muscle monkeys I see in clubs are doing it because they're wrestlers or ultimate fighters.

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Originally posted by jennypie Aren't you people concerned about your kidneys and liver??

milk thistle helps aide your kidney/liver enzymes which essentially cleans your blood. =) also known to help with your complexion heheh

Glucoasmine w/Chondrin and MSM is to help reduce the swelling in your joints and strengthen your cartiledge.

Not sure what "body building" people are doing but I like to stay active and sporty and have seen my body give out when i did not train as hard. I played baseball for 13 yrs of my life, div2 in college until i tore a ligament in my elbow. If I trained then the way I train now, I'm pretty sure I'd be much healthier and have a more prominent career playing baseball. Unfortunately, the torn ligament led me back to living in NYC and becoming as corrupt as the next person on these boards. I promote healthy living by working out and balancing your diet as well as supplements.

I think this work out regime is better than getting high and eating your face off afterall thats what I did in college and ballooned to 195lbs. Now that I'm working out I feel much more healthy and have dropped about 25 off my previous weight. Vanity is the eye of the beholder, imagine yourself at 195....

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Originally posted by jennypie Sounds like superficiality to me. Ok fair enough, that's different. I rarely wear make-up. Or fuss over my hair. And I never said I was perfect, nor was my statement a comaprison to anything I did. Sorry you took it so personally.

lol All of this coming from someone who submitted stupid ass pictures of herself in a bra pretending to dyke out…what was the point of that other than some attention? It's not a personal thing, I just can't stand stupid hypocritical bitces on high horses.

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Originally posted by notelfreak man i can't believe i tried to come off as responsible in that other thread, i am so full of shit just don't tell anyone

and if i remember correctly jenny, u posted a bunch of pictures of yourself after your new hair do with different color streaks and all done up, etc...


seriously, it's the same crap. everyone has a certain degree of vanity in them, it's like human nature.


i agree...the meatheads who practically live in the gym are definitely vain, but your assumption was way too general and quite obnoxious to me.


sorry i called you a bitch, but you annoy me sometimes.

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Originally posted by notelfreak man i can't believe i tried to come off as responsible in that other thread, i am so full of shit just don't tell anyone

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Originally posted by Slylee lol All of this coming from someone who submitted stupid ass pictures of herself in a bra pretending to dyke out…what was the point of that other than some attention? It's not a personal thing, I just can't stand stupid hypocrital bitces on high horses.

Actually the point of it was to get some free shwag. And yeah, some attention. The difference between and other people and me is that I never lied about why I did it.

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Originally posted by jennypie Actually the point of it was to get some free shwag. And yeah, some attention. The difference between and other people and me is that I never lied about why I did it.

how can you assume that "other people" (which includes people you don't even know) lied about anything?

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Originally posted by notelfreak man i can't believe i tried to come off as responsible in that other thread, i am so full of shit just don't tell anyone

watch the calorie count if your not.
Those protien shakes have a lot of calories-- reminds me of the southpark episode where cartman takes weightgain 2000

also creatine does fill your muscle cells with water but it gives you a "pumped up" feeling also ive noticed i can get a few more reps out of my workout so it really works

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Originally posted by D-res you work tomorrow? lol. i might stop by there

i dont work today but i might stop by there to pick up some stuff for myself later on tonight. let me know if you would want to meet me there later on tonight.

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Originally posted by Slylee and if i remember correctly jenny, u posted a bunch of pictures of yourself after your new hair do with different color streaks and all done up, etc... seriously, it's the same crap. everyone has a certain degree of vanity in them, it's like human nature. i agree...the meatheads who practically live in the gym are definitely vain, but your assumption was way too general and quite obnoxious to me. sorry i called you a bitch, but you annoy me sometimes.

No no...you're right...and again, I never said I wasn't guilty of being vain. Perhaps it's my general way of speaking, but I never meant to imply that I'm exempt from the same behaviours.

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Originally posted by Slylee how can you assume that "other people" (which includes people you don't even know) lied about anything?

From personal experience with those kind of people. It's not an assumption at all.

I'd like to get something straight here. I'm not coming down on vanity. I'm coming down on the people that CLEARLY work out for the sake of vanity, but try to pass it off as a health choice, and deny the superficial factor. Gimme a break.

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Originally posted by jennypie Aren't you people concerned about your kidneys and liver?? It's not gonna be pretty when you're pushin your senior years. I don't care what you people say, body building is for superficial people...don't even give me that crap that it's "for your health", LOL. Regular diet and exercise is healthy enough if you ask me. Anything beyond that is just vanity.

what do you mean regular diet? McDonalds and coke is regular diet?

How does a "bodybuilding" diet is different from "healthy" diet"

Do you even know what the "bodybuilding" diet might look like?
For ex: I eat 100% rolled oats, tuna, chicken, lean meats, bunch of fiberous veggies whole wheat bread, pasta etc And take 35gs of protein post workout. Besides that I take my multi vitamin, flax oil and fish oil (efa's) So tell me how it is different from any other "healthy" diet
Your statement sounds very ignorant if you ask me.

Honestly since I started lifting my self confidense improved, I look better, I have more strength, my overall health is better, since I started lifting it has helped me to quit smoking (Smoker of 7 years).

I love lifting weights, it relieves stress and relaxes. Nothing like going to the gym after 7.5 hour shift at work + 3 hours of school. I can care less what people think I dont work out to walk around shirtless and show off, its for myself. So your statement about bodybuilding superficial people is plainly retarted.

And what do you mean dont give me that crap its for your health? Is it not also for your health with 100 other benefits?

And about your last comment about excersise and healthy diet is good enough. What else are bodybuilders do? They diet healthy and they work out which is excersise. Doesnt differ from your statement.

Yes there are people who take it too far etc and steroids and shit but we arent talking about them.

I say you have no right to judge other people and make statements such as these. I mean its your opinion whatever, but if you ask me, lifting weights and eating healthy and trying to achieve something is better then smoking a fucking crack pipe and eating jelly beans all day. Enough said.

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Originally posted by Danila what do you mean regular diet? McDonalds and coke is regular diet? How does a "bodybuilding" diet is different from "healthy" diet" Do you even know what the "bodybuilding" diet might look like? For ex: I eat 100% rolled oats, tuna, chicken, lean meats, bunch of fiberous veggies whole wheat bread, pasta etc And take 35gs of protein post workout. Besides that I take my multi vitamin, flax oil and fish oil (efa's) So tell me how it is different from any other "healthy" diet Your statement sounds very ignorant if you ask me. Honestly since I started lifting my self confidense improved, I look better, I have more strength, my overall health is better, since I started lifting it has helped me to quit smoking (Smoker of 7 years). I love lifting weights, it relieves stress and relaxes. Nothing like going to the gym after 7.5 hour shift at work + 3 hours of school. I can care less what people think I dont work out to walk around shirtless and show off, its for myself. So your statement about bodybuilding superficial people is plainly retarted. And what do you mean dont give me that crap its for your health? Is it not also for your health with 100 other benefits? And about your last comment about excersise and healthy diet is good enough. What else are bodybuilders do? They diet healthy and they work out which is excersise. Doesnt differ from your statement. Yes there are people who take it too far etc and steroids and shit but we arent talking about them. I say you have no right to judge other people and make statements such as these. I mean its your opinion whatever, but if you ask me, lifting weights and eating healthy and trying to achieve something is better then smoking a fucking crack pipe and eating jelly beans all day. Enough said.

+1

i was actually just going to touch on some of your points as well.


what is so vain about taking care of your body and being healthy? some people who work out a lot are truly just healthy people and take really good care of themselves...simple as that.

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Originally posted by notelfreak man i can't believe i tried to come off as responsible in that other thread, i am so full of shit just don't tell anyone