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Originally posted by fastmp3 malek you're putting everybody in the same bag, why don't you take your hatred against islam somewhere else ?

yes lets close our eyes because clearly that is the only solution to the problem

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Originally posted by fastmp3 don't change the subject. but you don't need to describe the "5 prayers a day" as crap

le me put it in a different way, what you want to do in your personnal life should not have to be taken upon of the rest of us, and the prayers are part of that.


kids with daggers walking in the school because its their religion?

sigh wearing a turban and wanting to join an institution called the RCMP which has a traditonal costume?

hassidic jews who want special treatments in their neighbourhoods while denying the existence of anything around them including their neighbours, most of them will not even look at you, let alone talk.

african dude coming here with his 3 wifes because thats the way it is there? well, guess what, we have our own ways here too, and that involves one woman per man.

on and on and on

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no let's open our eyes and stop generalizing. what does praying 5 times a day have to do with terrorism ?

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Originally posted by fastmp3 no let's open our eyes and stop generalizing. what does praying 5 times a day have to do with terrorism ?

what does the sun have to do with flowers and the moon?

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Originally posted by malek At Bombardier these people have requested rooms to have their 5 prayers a day crap, in their home countries NO ONE HAS THAT BENEFIT! Companies and govts in muslim countries don't even have special treatment for those who want to pray since you can do your five prayers at once. Same goes for sikhs and their daggers, hassidic jews and their special requirements, polygamous africans, etc etc etc

Akhee, you couldn't be further from the truth. My father worked for the GOVERNMENT in Saudi Arabia and for the two prayers of the day that they are at work, (Dhuhr and Asr) there is an imam, a LARGE prayer room, and full facilities for ablution in every building. Unfortunately, they aren't very tolerant of other religions in that country (which is WRONG according to the Quran, imho) so you don't have multi-faith prayer facilities for the non-Muslims. However, in their private residential complexes, there were Sunday mass-like facilities held, however most of the Christians I knew were not in Saudi Arabia to practice their religion but to make money, so I didn't know many religious non-Muslims in my 13 years in that country.

Anyway, yes, ALL MUSLIMS have that benefit in Pakistan, Dubai, Bahrain, and Saudi Arabia (the only places I visited; not sure about Syria but I'm disappointed to hear if what you are saying is true).

To Taha's point, you are far more intellectual than to make such broad generalizations about immigrants. Canada's largest bank, RBC, has invested 100s of millions of dollars in immigration programs because their experts recognize the benefit of qualified immigrants. These include immigrants THAT WANT TO PRACTICE THEIR RELIGIONS!!!!

Why the fuck would religion be included in the Charter of Rights and Freedoms if it were something that was harmful to society? Wouldn't the legal experts and leaders that shaped our country, like TRUDEAU, understand the consequences of their actions? These people are 100 x more qualified than you and I to make policy because they have access to ALL the information, unlike you and I.

Also, Taha, I think it's clear that Malek is not just hating Muslims--he's hating all the religions equally in his last sentence above!

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Originally posted by malek le me put it in a different way, what you want to do in your personnal life should not have to be taken upon of the rest of us, and the prayers are part of that. kids with daggers walking in the school because its their religion? sigh wearing a turban and wanting to join an institution called the RCMP which has a traditonal costume? hassidic jews who want special treatments in their neighbourhoods while denying the existence of anything around them including their neighbours, most of them will not even look at you, let alone talk. african dude coming here with his 3 wifes because thats the way it is there? well, guess what, we have our own ways here too, and that involves one woman per man. on and on and on

fair enough, but you don't need to describe praying 5 times a day as crap. and i don't see why it would bother you if muslim employees of bombardier asked to have a room to pray. en quoi ca te dérange toi ?

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Originally posted by fastmp3 fair enough, but you don't need to describe praying 5 times a day as crap. and i don't see why it would bother you if muslim employees of bombardier asked to have a room to pray. en quoi ca te dérange toi ?

Well it means the company has to spend extra $$ to create this room, it's an additional cost which seems a bit silly and rediculous to many people...it ususally also means that others who used that area before have to move somewhere else...

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Originally posted by fastmp3 en quoi ca te dérange toi ?

hey! in the country of toronto we speak english!

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Originally posted by fayraree Akhee, you couldn't be further from the truth. My father worked for the GOVERNMENT in Saudi Arabia and for the two prayers of the day that they are at work, (Dhuhr and Asr) there is an imam, a LARGE prayer room, and full facilities for ablution in every building. Unfortunately, they aren't very tolerant of other religions in that country (which is WRONG according to the Quran, imho) so you don't have multi-faith prayer facilities for the non-Muslims. However, in their private residential complexes, there were Sunday mass-like facilities held, however most of the Christians I knew were not in Saudi Arabia to practice their religion but to make money, so I didn't know many religious non-Muslims in my 13 years in that country.

in Pierre-Elliot Trudeau airport (yes in montreal) there's a praying room for staff and travellers.

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Originally posted by fastmp3 en quoi ca te dérange toi ?

I think his answer would be that everyone else would have to work 5 x harder to make up the lost productivity of those employees!

In fact, the HR departments of the largest multinational companies in the world understand that there are benefits to having more than one break in the business day because the relaxation of the mind and personal, quiet, undisturbed meditation INCREASES productivity.

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Originally posted by starsearcher Well it means the company has to spend extra $$ to create this room, it's an additional cost which seems a bit silly and rediculous to many people...it ususally also means that others who used that area before have to move somewhere else...

seems silly and ridiculous to many people, but to others it's not. and if Bombardier wants to grant that right to their muslim employee, why would it bother you ?

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Originally posted by starsearcher Well it means the company has to spend extra $$ to create this room, it's an additional cost which seems a bit silly and rediculous to many people...it ususally also means that others who used that area before have to move somewhere else...

LOL I thought my predicted answer was gonna be funny but this is better!