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DJ Sarah H
Louboutin's Bitch



Registered: Nov 2000
Location: London UK Baby



** Does not do Drugs @ parties ! ** or anywhere else come to that . .

i do smoke an occasional cigerette and have the occasional beer but thats it . . . .


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Old Post Mar-04-2002 00:12  United Kingdom
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torontotrance
I hath returned



Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Toronto
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So lame.......man.......can't ppl have their opinions and the ppl not resort to flaming. Ppl behave and wake up!

Old Post Mar-04-2002 00:16  Canada
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sykadelik
INSTRUMENTALIST



Registered: Mar 2002
Location: Bristol

Pills suck in my opinion! I tried one once and it did nothing to enhance my night. It always amuses me when u see people who have caned druz lying about in the chillout rooms when all i need is a little red bull and i am off all nite. No laying around looking like a space cake!

If this offends anyone I am sorry. Had a really bad day!

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Renegade
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Registered: May 2001
Location: Prague, Czech Republic

quote:
Originally posted by ABTsportsline

most of the people who have posted in here have been attacking (or quoting and drilling, pick whichever sounds better to you) those who have honestly replied that they don't do drugs at parties. Well, if you do casual drugs at parties, then why are you getting involved in the discussion of this thread? its not like people in here are saying "we are better than drug users".... no conspiring going on.

I don't think you are lesser of a person if you do drugs. I do think you are lesser of a person if you criticize someone for not doing drugs.

-ABT- [/B]


Well, yeah, but I think there is a subtle "holier than thou" attitude amongst some of the abstainers here (youself excluded) which is causing some the drug-users to jump onto their back foot and justify what they do. In the title, for instance, "leave your mark here if you party drug free!", there is a subtle implication that abstenance from drug use at parties is somehow demonstrative of a high moral-integrity that has been forgone by anyone who uses drugs (periodically or not) at any sort of a party.

To make it a bit more simple, take a look at the stance taken by some teetotallers (though, let me stress, not by all) where simply because they have chosen to go down a certain path, they assume they have a right to patronise those who do decide to drink alcohol. Their logic is that alcohol leads to violence, debauchery and, ultimately, to self-destruction. It damages the body, breaks up homes and contributes little good to society. Now, in a somewhat spurious sense, they are right. Alcohol does do a lot of damage. It kills a lot of people, and harms the lives of so many more. How many times have we all woken up from a big night out and immediately regretted something we'd done while under the influence? From this perspective, it's hard to think about anything good to say about alcohol at all. From the perspective of an outsider - one who has never drank - the consumption of alcohol must seem like a great evil. It doesn't cure cancer, it doesn't make anyone a better person, it just, in the long run, causes a lot of damage to a lot of people.

But this is where you kinda need to look behind the rhetoric and really analyse what's going on. Sure alcohol does do a lot of damage, but to what percentage of users? To what kind of users? Does going out to the pub after work for a few beers to any damage at all? The teetotaller perspective would be that you shouldn't need alcohol to unwind at all, but isn't that missing the point? If you've never drank alcohol before, how can you possibly have formed such an absolutist perspective? "I've never needed alcohol to unwind, therefore there must be something wrong with you". But they miss the point: the occasional beer isn't going to cause any damage to anyone, but excess consumption of beer over a prolonged period is likely to cause damage. There's nothing wrong with going to the pub and consuming one or two beers, but there is something wrong with going to the pub every day and consuming 10 or 20. Teetotallers fail to make this distinction between use and abuse, but it's still hard to justify any sort of alcohol consumption to them at all - I mean, what do you tell them? "I enjoy the feeling of getting drunk". Well that must mean that you must have some problems in your life that you need to escape, yeah? Shouldn't you be drunk on life? "It helps me relax/unwind/socialise". Shouldn't you be able to do all these things without alcohol though?

It's hard to justify the use of alcohol to those who don't use it, simply because it's impossible for them to understand how alcohol enhances the moment. I can enjoy myself without alcohol, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't enjoy consuming it anyway. Alcohol does cause a lot of damage, but only if it's used the wrong way. For everyone who dies from alcohol abuse, there's a thousand more enjoying, sensibly, for it for what it is, whether they're capable of justifying its use to the teetotallers or not.

Look, anyway, I'm not going to labour the point. I'm sure if you've read between the lines you'll understand my perspective on drug use by now, so I guess I'll just leave it at that. Each to their own.

Anyone fancy a pint?

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Thor
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Registered: Feb 2001
Location: Calgary or Iceland.....

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Originally posted by tiesto14


Miss i am sorry if i offended u in any way....you seem to be very nice...but i think i went off too hard on you and Biz because of the way Thor is talking to me in another thread about drugs....you both are NOT being rude to me nor have you insulted me in anyway...UNLIKE Thor who feels he needs to....so i apologize to you both...jus be safe


Yeah, your such a nice guy.. Your original post in my thread said that the majority of drug users are criminals and degenerates ...

So deal with it, I give respect to people that don't say ignorant and hatefull things just like you did..

People here know me, they know that I am passionate about educating people on drugs, you sir a fear monger who knows very little about what you speak of..

You have a lot to learn.


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Magimaster
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Vancouver

I party drug free and smoke free...though I drink sometimes.

I'm out...<---


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JM
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: Dec 2000
Location: Seattle, USA

quote:
Originally posted by Spad


So does that mean that you're never going to have sex again? I mean sex is great fun! But then you can have fun just by listening to Trance right? So why bother taking the emotional risk of having sex with somebody, not to mention the risk of STD's. Anyway you get what I mean.


hehe.....very eloquently stated....yeah...

i'm more than happy with listening and dancing to trance, as of now it's my choice not to 'drugs'...although i drink (usually friday or saturday nite when i go out) but not too heavily, although i'm aware too much alcohol aint good either....so yeah...

>JM<

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Vivid Boy
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Registered: Sep 2001
Location: T.O

I used to party with drugs now im at parties im too hammered to get a pill in my mouth or something up my nose =)....lol

but i still do smoke the weed and once in a while i take a pill...but i can seriously say i dont and never again will pack my nose with anything

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hapamoto
R3ELISM



Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Canoga Park, California

i used to party w/ drugs.. now i just drink.. but when i go see trance dj's.. i am sober.. just high off the music

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tiesto14
Let The Music Play



Registered: Oct 2001
Location: The Palladium New York City

quote:
Originally posted by Thor


Yeah, your such a nice guy.. Your original post in my thread said that the majority of drug users are criminals and degenerates ...

So deal with it, I give respect to people that don't say ignorant and hatefull things just like you did..

People here know me, they know that I am passionate about educating people on drugs, you sir a fear monger who knows very little about what you speak of..

You have a lot to learn.


dude you have SERIOUS issues...sorry but it has been prooven time and tiem again theat drug users (the majority which Miss and You are NOT) are criminals and degenerates...do you understand what the word MAJORITY means...it DOESNT mean ALL it means if you took all the drug users in the world then split up the criminals with the good people...you would have more criminals...that doesnt mean that ALL are bad....

You call me a fear monger...hahahhaha..well atleast i am going to read your articles..you on the other hand look at the first sentence of proof that i set forth and denounce it right off the bat....you wont even TRY and listen and be logical...you want to inform people about drugs...then by all means do it...but if i wanna inform people that drugs lead to nothing but SHIT then how dare you put me down for doing do..are you so high and mighty that your opinion means more then mine...

Education is one thing....but being CLOSE MINDED is another...i have seen first hand what drugs do in MANY instances..from friends usage, to my own experimentaion, to my brothers heavy usage, to articles i read in the newspapers and deaths and arrests i see on the TV ALL due to drugs...yes there are some people who use drugs and do NO harm to anyone else..but thats not who i am talking about...

I see you are very passionate about drugs,,,thats very strange to have such a passion for substances that in more cases then not lead to no good...maybe you should take your efforts and use them towards keeping kids in school...no wait thjats right u want kids to be free to experiment with drugs.,...fuck school...it would get in the way...i wonder how many kids a year drop out of school due to getting involved with drugs...it must be staggerng....

so keep ranting and raving and putting me down...its ok...i will just sit back and laugh at your pathetic efforts...cus they really are a joke...grow up and face reality without a substance to help you and maybe you will see what life is all about...cus the more and more you post the more i am begining to think you are some loser who sits home and concocts theorys on how or why drugs should be legal inorder to give meaning to your pathetic life as avid drug user....

and why dont u show reasons why drugs would be better legal then illegal..you have yet to do so...i have shown why they are bad...the only reason you seem to give for them being legal is because the drug war is a failure and its your right....well when your right stops hurting the people who want to live in society with rules that are written and unwritten and can maintain normal behavior using drugs then maybe we can make it legal...but we all know that cant happen...


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NY1004
Sudoku Addict



Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Bronx, NY

quote:
Originally posted by ABTsportsline


I don't think you are lesser of a person if you do drugs. I do think you are lesser of a person if you criticize someone for not doing drugs.

-ABT-


Wow ABT~! WELL SAID.


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Special_K
I dont know anymore



Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Vancouver

I go sober all the time now. Ive had my chemical fun.....Ive escaped un-harmed so why push it?

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