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Originally posted by Push2005 Not at all... perfecto was dying, BlackHole is blooming. Oakie got completely lazy, used too much drugs and hadn't got any fans left to back him up... Tiësto isn't even near this. Your point is wrong. Funny how you think that people who might like tiësto now and then their opinions are automatically biased. I didn't get anything from your last post here. Learn to structure it and then come back again. Thanks.

yet another anal/over the top post. seems like people on here react so badly and leap to the defence of their "heroes".

you read too much into my comparison with tiesto and oakenfold because what i was linking was their on-deck skill and abilities not drug taking or how their record labels are/were going because their labels are not entirely run by oakenfold or tiesto alone and as for drug taking, thats another matter. i didnt say tiesto had got like oakenfold. i meant that he was in danger of heading the same way but many people on here hit the panic button as soon as their favourite djs are mentioned in a "bad light"

as for the "I didn't get anything from your last post here. Learn to structure it and then come back again. Thanks", it seems pretty childish to have that kind of attitude and try to take some moral high ground about how to write a post on an internet forum when you dont agree with someone. i suppose you would "get it" if i was praising tiesto maybe?. either how, i wasnt on here to start a fight and none of what i put was agressive. i was just putting my own opinions on the thread name and obviously some people cant accept other peoples opinions when they dont match thier own (probably why we have so much war in the world right now.

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just read a thread on a irish dance site..tiesto playing over here in ireland last nite at HI-FI..


heard he played goog to very good from peoples replys..it also said the bounces had to stop letting people into the tent in which he was playing in.it was that packed with clubbers.

saw him friday night at Slinky and altho the set started off well it didnt really go anywhere. Nothing like the t/l from the Vienna set which was a bit of a shame, didnt hear hardly any of his own productions. Very few trainwrecks tho.

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Originally posted by slinkyhead saw him friday night at Slinky and altho the set started off well it didnt really go anywhere. Nothing like the t/l from the Vienna set which was a bit of a shame, didnt hear hardly any of his own productions. Very few trainwrecks tho.

It seems he's making an effort to shape up technically.

And I think DJ's do feel obligated to play certain tracks. It seems that if a DJ doesn't play predominately new and 'popular' tracks during a liveset or radio broadcast, they are considered to be behind the times. And if they cane the same tracks over and over for a few months they're considered to be jumping a bandwagon by only playing tracks popular at the specific moment.

It has to be a very hard line to tread, keeping everyone happy, and I don't envy doing it.

And furthermore, just because the Vienna tracklist includes a few new tracks doesn't mean that it's somehow inferior to a pure classics set. The purpose of the set wasn't as a classics tribute, so I think it's kind of silly to expect that it should have been either all new or all classic. If I go out to the club, I love hearing a few classics thrown in with the newer material. There's nothing like hearing the melody of an old favorite slowly coming in.

EDIT: Also, DJ's focus on newer tracks because everyone in the scene knows them. Since EDM is still (relatively) new and growing, a great number of people at a club probably won't even recognize many of the tracks some TA's consider standards. For instance, when Tiesto dropped Mercury & Solace, I'm willing to bet 1/2 the crowd went... "Weird song, never heard it before. PLAY WITHOUT YOU NEAR!!!"

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Originally posted by pvdclubber could it be that tiesto and oakenfold trainwreck coz they are deaf? i'm not kidding here. i get the impression that some djs care about there ears and others don't, these two clearly don't

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they clearly didnt... cos it is true Tijs doesn't exactly have accurate hearing anymore.

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He's never going to be the best technically, and making a very rapid switch from vinyl to compltely CDR did little to improve that.

He's finally getting to grips with how to mix properly on the CDR and i think thats showing. He no longer making a lot of wrecks in the sets thats for sure. What some people deem a wreckage, might actually just be Tijs trying to move from 1 genre to another, which would actually ruin/destroy some of the flow that is deemed the 'norm'.

Charlie Lloyd, why are you even in this thread? If you didn't have anything constructive to say? The one point brought to the table (Tijs mirroring Oakey)... has been evident since about 2002... never mind is in danger of happening now

I countered your point about vienna, simply because you'd condemned our reviews of the event as we were 'just' studying a tracklist. I replied because I was there. I heard the mixing, and i can judge it to your pre-requisites and it was STILL top notch. Even flow & build was superior to any tiesto event i've been to, in about 3 years.

btw - it was no.100, so my experience of '98' parties as you refer to, is not uptodate perhaps i have a bias view, i requested a few of the tracks, and tiesto obliged. It made it a special show, and certainly means my opinion shouldn't be taken for granted.

Check out some other forums like www.tiesto.hu and the actual response from austrians/hungarians/slovaks who were in attendance - i think they agree with me (without being too anal about what was played either).

i'd be the first to admit Tiesto is not a great mixer. I'd also admit that in some sets this year - particular the surprisingly poor 03-06-06 HMH gig, Tijs has been far from spectacular. But to completely judge him based on these disasters is equally transparent & false as if i were to completely champion him as the best DJ on the planet because of 1 gig last week.

ps. i hope that wasn't to anal for you

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Originally posted by MichaelBoogerd! He's never going to be the best technically, and making a very rapid switch from vinyl to compltely CDR did little to improve that. He's finally getting to grips with how to mix properly on the CDR and i think thats showing. He no longer making a lot of wrecks in the sets thats for sure. What some people deem a wreckage, might actually just be Tijs trying to move from 1 genre to another, which would actually ruin/destroy some of the flow that is deemed the 'norm'. Charlie Lloyd, why are you even in this thread? If you didn't have anything constructive to say? The one point brought to the table (Tijs mirroring Oakey)... has been evident since about 2002... never mind is in danger of happening now I countered your point about vienna, simply because you'd condemned our reviews of the event as we were 'just' studying a tracklist. I replied because I was there. I heard the mixing, and i can judge it to your pre-requisites and it was STILL top notch. Even flow & build was superior to any tiesto event i've been to, in about 3 years. btw - it was no.100, so my experience of '98' parties as you refer to, is not uptodate perhaps i have a bias view, i requested a few of the tracks, and tiesto obliged. It made it a special show, and certainly means my opinion shouldn't be taken for granted. Check out some other forums like www.tiesto.hu and the actual response from austrians/hungarians/slovaks who were in attendance - i think they agree with me (without being too anal about what was played either). i'd be the first to admit Tiesto is not a great mixer. I'd also admit that in some sets this year - particular the surprisingly poor 03-06-06 HMH gig, Tijs has been far from spectacular. But to completely judge him based on these disasters is equally transparent & false as if i were to completely champion him as the best DJ on the planet because of 1 gig last week. ps. i hope that wasn't to anal for you

anal? this last post of yours borders on the obsessive haha.
i was "in the thread" because believe it or not, its an open forum and people are allowed to give their opinions, both pro and against. obviously you've took the whole thing a little too far my friend.

as for being constructive, well in my opinion i was being (if you read my posts without your tiesto tinted glasses on) and since free speach and all that, i was doing just that. maybe the whole thing about being allowed free speach and people having different views to you is hard to understand for someone from a country still getting used to it maybe? but we wont get into that.
as for countering points etc? maybe you spend too long on forums and have got too over the whole thing.
i think you need to learn that not everyone agrees with you and maybe you just need to accept it and not get all agressive and childish in future.

anyway ive made my point on the original thread title, its a shame some people on here get so over excited when they dont agree with someone with different opinions. probably why ive hardly ever posted on here since joining.

MichaelBoogerd knock yourself out slagging me off, im not going to lose any sleep over it mate, especially since its over tiesto

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Originally posted by Omega_M is tiesto reading this thread ?

well he knew that alot of TAs preffered Sasha over him so im sure he davedresden's the place from time to time.

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Originally posted by charlie lloyd slagging me off

There are way too many TA's using this term, so it's about time I find out what it actually means. A lil' help?

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Originally posted by Ian 01. Members of Mayday - 10 in 01 (Paul van Dyk Remix) 0.00 02. Utah Saints - Lost Vagueness 6.45 03. Airwave - Save Me 13.04 04. Green Martian - Industry 19.55 05. Faithless - We Come 1 (Rollo & Sister Bliss Mix) 23.26 06. Ralphy B - Massive 29.25 07. Jan Johnston - Flesh (DJ Tiesto Remix) 37.12 08. Altitude - Nightstalker (Original Mix) 43.46 09. Coast 2 Coast - Home (Original Mix) 47.55 10. Delerium - Innocente (DJ Tiesto Remix) 53.04 11. Fred Numf Vs. 5 point 0 - Globalisation 57.09 12. Minimalistix - Twin Peaks Theme (Original) 62.00 13. DJ Tiesto - Urban Train 67.37 14. Rank 1 - Such Is Life (Rank 1's Deep Dub Mix) 72.50 15. DJ Tiesto - Flight 643 78.00 16. Katana - Fancy Fair 83.49 17. Emmanuel Top - Tone 89.41 18. Mario Lopez - Sound Of Nature (Plug n Play Remix) 93.10 19. DJ Montana - The Bridge in The Park 96.40 club eau 2nd anniversary. My favourite tiesto set ever

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