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SYSTEM-J
IDKFA.



Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester

quote:
Originally posted by Psy-T
do you mind naming some similarly generic techno records then?


Why, exactly? I don't intend to turn this into a detailed discussion on the minor nuances of acid techno. That would be no different to Spirit arguing over particular melodic trance tracks as if they will change the general perception someone else has to the style.


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Old Post Aug-18-2006 01:21  England
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Psy-T
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Registered: Jan 2003
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quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Why, exactly? I don't intend to turn this into a detailed discussion on the minor nuances of acid techno. That would be no different to Spirit arguing over particular melodic trance tracks as if they will change the general perception someone else has to the style.


why? --for my benefit. it especially made me curious how you described it as generic techno.


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Old Post Aug-18-2006 01:25  Israel
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SYSTEM-J
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Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Manchester

quote:
Originally posted by Psy-T
why? --for my benefit. it especially made me curious how you described it as generic techno.


Er... actually I'm not sure why I did last night. In the review I refer to it almost entirely as acid house and the category we put it under was acid house too. I'd had a few to drink last night and a lot of the beats on it have always reminded me of techno tracks I know, so I suppose that's where I got the association from.


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Old Post Aug-18-2006 13:58  England
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movingincircles
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Registered: Jan 2003
Location: USA

quote:
Originally posted by basd
Some people like to use multiple sources, and form their own opinion. If that's too much for you, then I'm sorry.


ermm, i havent read what you posted before this

but asking someone to define "techno" for them is not exactly forming an opinion

Old Post Aug-19-2006 07:17  United States
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harriz
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Registered: May 2005
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quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
20/20 is fucking dull acid house/techno that's been heard a million times before. You're only favouring it because of your snobbish pretences that techno = credibility. You slate trance for being all the same then try and hype the most fucking generic techno record I've heard in years?

Plus you're so a fucking stupid you can't even quote in context. I was talking about the cover photography in the quotes you mentioned- even specifically saying "even aside from the music". Way to go, you're a fucking idiot.

Childish 'you're fucking idiot' insults and snobbish pretenses aside the fact is 20/20 is a project that compiles music produced by Josh Wink one of the best most influential acid house artists ever!
Far from being generic and raw like life itself, Josh Winks music is as original as music gets!
Unlike Tiesto who has no idea what his 'Tiesto-brand' cds will sound like 'till they are actually released, Josh Winks music is composed, arranged, mixed and he even mastered 100% by Josh Wink.
Now I know that as a trance consumer you are more likely to buy and appreciate 'idillic', 'sophisticated' and 'plea$ant'* 'Tie$to-brand' products, (after all tie$to-brand is such a stong brand name the trance market) but please get a clue about music in general before you talk about Phillys finest in one of your 'fifth grade essay' reviews.


* The key word here is... 'pleasant'

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SYSTEM-J
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I couldn't give a shit if he mixed, mastered, produced and wrote it all, drew the artwork and delivered each copy to every record shop that sells it in his teeth while being chased by killer bees. If the end product coming out of the speakers does not sound good, then it isn't a good record. In that review (which you insist on quoting the part about the bloody cover) I don't praise Tiesto's talents or abilities. I don't judge it on how many points it earns me in snobbery debates. I don't judge it on genre or name or reputation. I judge it on the fucking music. Learn something from that.


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Old Post Aug-19-2006 15:38  England
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harriz
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Registered: May 2005
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quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I couldn't give a shit if he mixed, mastered, produced and wrote it all, drew the artwork and delivered each copy to every record shop that sells it in his teeth while being chased by killer bees. If the end product coming out of the speakers does not sound good, then it isn't a good record. In that review (which you insist on quoting the part about the bloody cover) I don't praise Tiesto's talents or abilities. I don't judge it on how many points it earns me in snobbery debates. I don't judge it on genre or name or reputation. I judge it on the fucking music. Learn something from that.


You talk about acid house and LA like it's something you don't know anything about!
And that is pretense. And it's spelled with an S not a C

So much for a writer who has mastered spelling and grammar...
You said it's generic and it's nothing but generic.
It is original. It sounds original. It sounds like 'Josh Wink'. It sounds like real music.
It sounds... good!

It does not sound like some engineer hired to patch together a bunch of Mc trance to create some mythical Los Angeles where everything shines, everyone smiles and the sun is constantly glowing...
Wait a minute... LA, a shinny glowing place?
What... are you f****n twelve?
The only place in LA where you find everything shining, everybody smiling and the sun constantly glowing is on television!

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SYSTEM-J
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quote:
Originally posted by harriz
You talk about acid house and LA like it's something you don't know anything about!
And that is pretense. And it's spelled with an S not a C


Actually, "pretence" is the British variant. I'm English. England is in Britain.

quote:
So much for a writer who has mastered spelling and grammar...
You said it's generic and it's nothing but generic.
It is original. It sounds original. It sounds like 'Josh Wink'. It sounds like real music.
It sounds... good!


Apart from some techno percussion it's pretty much acid house as acid house is and always has been.

quote:
It does not sound like some engineer hired to patch together a bunch of Mc trance to create some mythical Los Angeles where everything shines, everyone smiles and the sun is constantly glowing...
Wait a minute... LA, a shinny glowing place?
What... are you f****n twelve?
The only place in LA where you find everything shining, everybody smiling and the sun constantly glowing is on television!


Are you aware of what a myth is? It's a fictional tale. Hence why I called it a "mythical" Los Angeles and implied that Tiesto could work for the LA tourist board. If you actually read the sentence in context, I'm saying that the music and the artwork make LA seem like a shiny, happy place. Read the paragraph before. You know the one that describes LA as a sordid and corrupt place? Yeah, you got that in your sights? It fucks your argument up good.

Nice going. You accuse me of being a shit writer and you don't know that English and American English have differences, and you can't even put sentences in context or... hell, understand the meaning of "mythical"? Fifth grade writing essays? I'm studying English at fucking university mate.


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Someone remind me why it was a good idea to let this clown back here again?


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harriz
Supreme tranceaddict



Registered: May 2005
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quote:
Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Actually, "pretence" is the British variant. I'm English. England is in Britain.



He is an example of that:
quote:

Are you aware of what a myth is? It's a fictional tale. Hence why I called it a "mythical" Los Angeles and implied that Tiesto could work for the LA tourist board. If you actually read the sentence in context, I'm saying that the music and the artwork make LA seem like a shiny, happy place. Read the paragraph before. You know the one that describes LA as a sordid and corrupt place? Yeah, you got that in your sights? It fucks your argument up good.


I am out. This is over.

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SYSTEM-J
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Registered: Sep 2003
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Run and hide you jackass.


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Old Post Aug-19-2006 17:17  England
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Omega_M
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Registered: Jun 2005
Location: Ether

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Someone remind me why it was a good idea to let this clown back here again?


of late MD's been pretty quite. we need drama !!!! so they let him in


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