I know one track with a Belgian name and that is
Zolex - tisnoodniegoe

DLOAD IT and tell me if you like away from the dutch title heheehhe

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Laurent Garnier - sambu

I too was very surprised by what Miss Proxi said...
That disappointed me...

I thought she was very open minded, she organized the whole TA meeting at Trance Energy, and she seems to like otehr cultures, so what she said about the Americans struck me...
Well I hope she didn't really meant what she wrote

I didn't want to say something about what she wrote right away, because i already started a small fight among the other french. I didn't want this thread to turn into a battleground !

Anyhow, I second what you said Biznology.
American people are more or less hated throughout the world...and that musn't be easy to live with, because whatever you do, you'll suffer from prejudices from all over.
We only need to remember that there are tolerant and non-tolerant people, arrogant and non-arrogant ones, in each country...

I realize it's really difficult to judge...

So I appologize to the other French and myself about what I sad against them.
Although I still dislike France and the general mentality of their inhabitants, I'm trying to be more tolerant.
Everybody should do that...

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Originally posted by Miss Proximus NOR in Holland 2 Biz: I'm not judging Americans and Englishmen based on their internet-language cuz DOH! everyone knows that different from what you normally speak/write...but... when I see you guys writing whings like definately and quiet instead of quite and wich instead of which and my list is MUCH longer....that just makes me very suprised!! and i wonder...how can you people talk about onther people's english when you're having trouble with it yourselves Oh yea....must be because, no matter what, you're the best at everything anyway (you in general biz)

OK, Proxi, you've just revealed how stupid you are... and I'm not even American. Really.
If the French and Dutch complain that the US is too arrogant (which they do have a point in saying), then the attitude you've just demonstrated is 100000 times MORE arrogant. That despite the fact that you live (or study) in England and speak English.

If you're being arrogant, bitchy, and obnoxious, then don't accuse another country of having that attitude toward your country.

Once again, I'm not even American.
But from being here on TA all this time I've concluded many of your posts are pretty stupid...

Next remark @ Renegade: Dude, open your eyes. English isn't the hardest language for everybody. It's actually very, very easy. So is French, by the way. You've had no taste of the REALLY hard languages. Try learning Eastern European languages like Polish or Czech, or German. German is much harder than all the Romance languages (French/Spanish/Portuguese/...) and it's even harder than Dutch. So, I think you need a reality check.

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Originally posted by C-naptik American people are more or less hated throughout the world...and that musn't be easy to live with, because whatever you do, you'll suffer from prejudices from all over.

If Americans are so "hated", there is a reason...
Their behaviour is far to be irreproachable as far as international political!! Just look at the news...

Sure, they have certainly more "nationalist feelings" (as you said before) than French!!!

But we can't generalize, it's not worth to fight like that! Above all in a music forum...

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Originally posted by C-naptik I strongly disagree there Only people in Northern Europe know how to speak English well : almost everybody speaks fluent English in Belgium, The Netherlands and Scandinavia Countries where English is pretty well spoken : Germany, Austria, Switzerland Countries where English is almost not spoken at all : Southern Europe : France, Spain, Italy, Portugal... I think the worst would definitely be France, hehe, it's like in the USA here, people only speak one language and all French are against learning English...they suck and are completely stubborn why ? because they don't want to learn "the language of the fucking american imperialists" as they say I know it's complete bullshit, the French are not aware yet that knowing how to speak English is an advantage in the European Union for exchanges, trade, and culture

Sorry I'm joining this conversation a bit late.

I've only been to Paris (which I admit is very touristy) but half the people there spoke better English than me.

As for "the language of American imperialists", is it true French people have this attitude?

Wasn't it the French that helped the Americans in the War of Independence?

What many people fail to realise is that it wasn't a big American victory, nor was it an English retreat. English people who'd emigrated to America fought Englishman. There were no great heroes, on either side.

Personally, I think the UK and America should do more to learn foreign languages. Countries like Britain and America are all apalling at learning other languages. I feel quite stupid when I go to another country, and a lad my age can speak my language and I can't speak his.


I think English is the most important language in the world. It has the largest vocabulary. Did you know there are over half a million words in the English language? No other language has anywhere near that amount. Sadly though, the average English-mother-tongue speaker knows just 15,000 of those 500,000 words. I'm all for keeping culture and tradition, but if there is going to be a global language, it may as well be English, because it's already the biggest by a long way. I wish I knew another language. Maybe after University when I've got more time on my hands I'll learn one.

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Originally posted by Lytchix If Americans are so "hated", there is a reason... Their behaviour is far to be irreproachable as far as international political!! Just look at the news... Sure, they have certainly more "nationalist feelings" (as you said before) than French!!! But we can't generalize, it's not worth to fight like that! Above all in a music forum...

I agree strongly. WWII is the reason for it. Americans did it to themselves.

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Originally posted by evil_bastard Sorry I'm joining this conversation a bit late. I've only been to Paris (which I admit is very touristy) but half the people there spoke better English than me. As for "the language of American imperialists", is it true French people have this attitude? Wasn't it the French that helped the Americans in the War of Independence? What many people fail to realise is that it wasn't a big American victory, nor was it an English retreat. English people who'd emigrated to America fought Englishman. There were no great heroes, on either side. Personally, I think the UK and America should do more to learn foreign languages. Countries like Britain and America are all apalling at learning other languages. I feel quite stupid when I go to another country, and a lad my age can speak my language and I can't speak his. I think English is the most important language in the world. It has the largest vocabulary. Did you know there are over half a million words in the English language? No other language has anywhere near that amount. Sadly though, the average English-mother-tongue speaker knows just 15,000 of those 500,000 words. I'm all for keeping culture and tradition, but if there is going to be a global language, it may as well be English, because it's already the biggest by a long way. I wish I knew another language. Maybe after University when I've got more time on my hands I'll learn one.

Well, I mean, Yes, We helped them, And they help us. Some French soldiers are in Afghanistan now. People and Governments are totally oposites when you bring this into this kind of conversation. America also helped them in WWII to, Just like we rebuilt Germany, And we were against them...Totally different.

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Originally posted by extulas I agree strongly. WWII is the reason for it. Americans did it to themselves.

but we didnt just do it to ourselves. i KNOW we had a big part of the geneva convention, but we were placed in a position after the war that none of the decimated countries could have slid into. sure, its BECAUSE of the WWII that we are the superpower today...but then again we stayed out of the War as long as possible as well. whether thats at all pertinent now is debatable.../

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Switzerland made a bad choice to join the U.N...Why couldnt they just have let them do inspections without joining the U.N like they have in the past 50 years? Doesnt make much sense does it? America gave, Oh, Excuse me, The "U.N" gave the Jew's the palastineans land... Thats hwy their fighting today. We joined WWII to look good. We treated Black ALMOST the same as they were treating the JEWS at first. But they it got really out of hand, Concentration camps and all...ect... I mean, Dont call me racist at all, Cause I'm not, But Fighting in WWII was good and bad. In ways...

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Originally posted by Eugene hehe, sucks to be you! even though I live in America my heritage is not American

true that! fluent in 2 languages, understand from very little to much a few more (3 or 4) languages

>JM<

I have to say that Foreign people generally speak English better than we can speak their languages.

I was on a French exchange trip. I just spoke English, cos i couldn't fluently speak French. When they came here, it was like a normal language.

The Dutch are pretty much English! And I love the accent they have too, especially on the girls. mmmmmmmmm

Wherever u go, in the world, there will always be signs of English influenced language, cos its universal, as has been mentioned.

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Originally posted by biznology sure, its BECAUSE of the WWII that we are the superpower today

Well I hate to be pedantic, but the industrial power of America as a whole had been accelerating from 1900 onwards, and by the 1930s was undoubtedly a superpower.

WW2 strengthened what the US already had. What they don't teach us in Western history schools is that 90% of WW2 was one by Russia. We did little.

Americans killed: 300,000
Russians killed: over 20 million

They also faced 90% of the Wehrmacht on the Eastern front for 4 years of constant fighting.

What we're also not taught in the history classes is that Stalin murdered over 20 million of his own people (on top of those who died in the war) in the purges. That's 3 times the size of the holocaust. We allied with the biggest mass murderer in history to defeat another mass murderer. Ironic isn't it.

The Russians were first to Berlin, after most of the fighting. Yet, they got few of the rewards, the US got most. German scientists, the best rocket scientists in the world, were nabbed by the US.


If you were to measure a country's wealth by the value of her natural resources, Russia would be richer than every other country in the world put together. They have absolutely everything. They do not, however, have the drilling equipment necessary to extract it, and so a lot of time the US "takes it off their hands".

To conclude, the US was a superpower anyway, and her industrial might ensured that would continue. However, WW2 did a hell of a lot to strengthen her economy. The US made Britain pay for every single American bullet, every single American casualty, everything, and then some. She profitted a great deal from the war. Britain on the other hand fought a 6 year war, not a 4 year one. It cost us £6 million a day. Instead of a 2 hour bombing raid on Pearl Harbour, we suffered 100 days of devastating bombing on our capital and on key coastal locations for 300 miles, every night. It was not so profitable for us, we were right on the edge of the action. But then I suppose you could say we got it easy compared to places like Belgium (everyone always invades Belgium)who were right in the thick of it.