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^^ROFL


just an FYI, I think any product that has been on the market for a year before its competition can say at that point it's dominating the marketshare percentage...captain obvious much?


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quote:
Originally posted by kid nyce
^^ROFL


just an FYI, I think any product that has been on the market for a year before its competition can say at that point it's dominating the marketshare percentage...captain obvious much?



How amusing, its called Marketing gimp. Excellent move on Microsoft's part. Theres no need to explain on how Xbox 360 was pushed out first before it was even ready to ship.

Maybe this article will explain things a bit more.


Notice the date:

November 22, 2005: 5:17 AM EST


quote:
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) - In the first seconds of Tuesday morning, the Xbox 360 officially kicked off the next generation of video game machines. After being a year behind with the original Xbox, Microsoft is now a year ahead of its competitors. The big question is: Will this give it an advantage over Sony and Nintendo?

Publishers and analysts say yes, though no one's expecting the company to replace Sony as the overall market leader. By launching as much as a year before the PlayStation 3 comes to market, they say, Microsoft will have a firm opportunity to establish a large user base.

"Being first could be an advantage for Microsoft," said Brian Farrell, president and chief executive officer for THQ (Research). "We're assuming it's going to be a neck-and-neck horse race."

Few others are willing to say it will be that close, but everyone's looking for a tighter fight this time. At present, there are roughly 90 million PlayStation 2 units in homes worldwide versus 20 million Xboxes. That distant second place finish has cost Microsoft (Research) roughly $4 billion.

Mike Wallace, an analyst with UBS Warburg, said he expects the market breakdown to be closer to 60 percent PlayStation 3 vs. 40 percent Xbox 360 in the next generation. That would be a significant jump – and Wallace said it's the headstart that should give Microsoft the opportunity to make up the ground.

"I think that by getting out early, [Microsoft] should have sold about 10 million machines worldwide by the time the PS3 launches," he said.

While there's certain to be a consumer frenzy for the Xbox 360 this holiday season, it could be little more than a warm-up for Holiday 2006. Farrell said the last quote he heard from Sony (Research) was that the PS3 would launch around the holiday time-frame. Nintendo, meanwhile, has said it will launch at the same time as Sony.

"It seems Microsoft is using this opportunity to get out in front of the PS3, which gives them an advantage this holiday," said Paul Eibeler, CEO and president of Take Two Interactive Software (Research). "It also makes things even more exciting next holiday."

Take Two has seen its profits soar on the strength of the PlayStation 2, but Eibeler's not quite ready to declare Sony the winner of the next generation.

"The advantage is going to go to whoever does the better marketing, who has the better hardware system and the better software for that system," he said.

John Schappert, senior vice president and group studio general manager of Electronic Arts (Research) Canada, agrees.

"When the PS3 comes out, we'll know the full extend of that hardware," he said. "Microsoft is out there first. Will it be a benefit for them? That's up to the consumer."

By launching first, Microsoft may have one significant advantage: Developers will have a better chance to get acquainted with the system, meaning deeper, more sophisticated (and better looking) games by the time the PS3 hit shelves.

Sony, though, has not seemed to be in a rush to get the PS3 to market, preferring instead to extend the life cycle of the PS2. That could allow developers a little more time to polish their next-gen launch titles.

"The 360 came pretty quickly, while the PS3 has been more of an evolving process," said Eibeler. "We did a pretty good job, particularly in our sports studios, in preparing for the 360. We're working very hard in terms of people and tools preparing for the PS3."

At THQ, the story seems a bit different.

"The advantage [Microsoft] has, from a developer standpoint, is that in the last round, when all of us were creating our technology, the target was the PS2, then we'd port that over to Xbox," said Farrell. "In this round, with Xbox 360 being first, that's our technology platform. We see the 360 as a blank slate."


http://money.cnn.com/2005/11/22/tec...aunch/index.htm



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"I think that by getting out early, [Microsoft] should have sold about 10 million machines worldwide by the time the PS3 launches," he said.




Analyst hit that one right on the nail a year ago.

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Originally posted by TheDemon
1,2,3,4,5,whatever else you want to run down the factual list that i'm sure everyone has done so.


ok, you're truly a piece of shit kid nyce, i never posted that on here whatsoever. why you posting fake quotes? its one thing to have your oppoinion, its another posting fake shit just to keep blasting me. what? you just have to get something out this don't you. so you have to resort to posting a quote that i never made so you can keep harrasing me? you got some fucking nerve buddy. I've reported you to the admin and we'll see.


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Originally posted by TheDemon
I'am reporting you to the admin as we speak for falsifying a post i never made. You got some fucking never buddy. get lost.


FYI I was a mod here in the NY section "buddy"

http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...7&forumid=50&s=
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...5&forumid=50&s= (this one about ps3 launch attitude)
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...9&forumid=50&s=
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...9&forumid=50&s=
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...5&forumid=50&s=
http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...0&forumid=50&s=



Yes please have a mod contact me, I know practically all of them and even Swamper the owner of this site and I edited the quote so it wasn't 500 scrolls per page...ya get it. But if you want to resort to tattle tales so be it.

Fact is PS3 hate is an easy route to go when EVERYONE hates on it. Because we all know that it's easy to hate in groups...real ones when you stand alone


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Originally posted by Space_Marine
How amusing, its called Marketing gimp. Excellent move on Microsoft's part. Theres no need to explain on how Xbox 360 was pushed out first before it was even ready to ship.



I work in marketing "gimp"

Senior Business Analyst for a Fortune 500 Publishing Company
Sales Operations Director and Online Marketing Manager

I think I understand how marketing works

dont think I need to post any more credentials to prove my 4+ years in marketing...


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If you understand marketing im sure you understood article above.

Want me clap for you?

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quote:
Originally posted by TheDemon
1,2,3,4,5,whatever else you want to run down the factual list that i'm sure everyone has done so.


ok, you're truly a piece of shit kid nyce, i never posted that on here whatsoever. why you posting fake quotes? its one thing to have your oppoinion, its another posting fake shit just to keep blasting me. what? you just have to get something out this don't you. so you have to resort to posting a quote that i never made so you can keep harrasing me? you got some fucking nerve buddy. I've reported you to the admin and we'll see.

dumbass, i never posted that.


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quote:
Originally posted by TheDemon
ok, you're truly a piece of shit kid nyce, i never posted that on here whatsoever. why you posting fake quotes? its one thing to have your oppoinion, its another posting fake shit just to keep blasting me. what? you just have to get something out this don't you. so you have to resort to posting a quote that i never made so you can keep harrasing me? you got some fucking nerve buddy. I've reported you to the admin and we'll see.

dumbass, i never posted that.


you realize that kid nyce was not a mod too long ago in the NY forums before he voluntarily stepped down


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Bwhahaha this thread turn into shit quick.


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it's tiring to see nothing but shit threads putting down a manufacturer. who the fuck cares? really? and this is the only thing you really have "contributed"

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quote:
Originally posted by kid nyce
but constantly pointing out the negatives is what...a hater. Give it up dude, the bandwagon is full already, stop hating on it and since you own the damn thing (as you say you do), why not highlight it's positives.


why? why not? so I own it, yes it a good system, but it has its issues and sony is being an ass about it. stop being a ps3fanboy.


quote:
Originally posted by kid nyce
I don't understand why...do you get warm fuzzies inside that you posted ANOTHER ANTI-PS3 thread? It's old dude....really it's old...you can stop hating now


why, cause its my god given right. and what if i don't stop? you gonna beat me up? no better, you're gonna post fake quotes about me and take shots at me. LAMO!! buddy, you don't speak for me. don't tell what the fuck i can and cannot do. Its old..your blabbering ass is old. since I started this thread its been nothing but you complaining. here's a thought, if you hate my thread so much, why you keep coming back to it. you remind me of a 12 yr old, crying in your room because someone said something bad. get over it man, like they say, cant stand the heat stay out of the kitchen.

quote:
Originally posted by kid nyce
i'd like to also add that you can stop acting like this is new to you, like I'm coming out of left field to shit on you're 1 of 500 threads because I've been participating in this part of the forum for a while now. Maybe not as long as some of the other members but long enough to say that I know what's going on and have read enough to know that all your post ever consist of are anti-ps3 content.


where are you getting this crap from. you really, really cant take the fact that other people say bad things about your beloved ps3. it works you so up much that I made a couple of ani-ps3 threads. what is your fucking problem man? dude, get a life. ive been on this site for years. i've seen crap posted up the damn ying yang. dont come in here talking all high and mighty to me as if you know me. you talk as if you speak for others. you cant take it, you just can't take the fact that somebody posted something bad about your beloved ps3.


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