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| quote: | Originally posted by Spliffire
Thanks for posting this article! I actually know the author personally and I can say it's intelligent, compassionate people like him who are the true future of the Jewish nation, not the scumbags in the Knesset. A very interesting question has been brought up in this thread about the future of the Jews in Palestine (where would you have them go?). It is a question that has troubled me quite a bit because on the one hand I fully support the right of Palestinians to have their state and be free of colonial occupation, and on the other hand I recognize the need of the Jewish people to have a nation of their own, a place of refuge from the bigotry that has plagued them from centuries (yes, antisemitism is still a real problem). Liberation for Palestinians AND Jews. In a just world I think a Jewish state would have been carved right out of Germany, the perpetrators of the Holocaust, rather then foisted upon innocent Palestinians. In fact I think that would have been brilliant poetic justice but we all know what really happened (well, some of us at least  ). So in the interest of justice for both peoples I propose side by side but separate independent and sovereign states for Jews and Palestinians. The borders for such a two-state solution already exist, they were drawn up by the UN in 1947. Some Israelis won't like it because it will require giving up a lot of land and dismantling many (illegal) settlements, but this is the price of peace and stability. Some Palestinians won't like it 'cause Israel will still exist and they'll most likely have to give up on the right to return, but it sure as hell is a better outcome then they'll get from the status quo situation and the perpetual intifada it fuels. Far from ideal, but the only realistic option at this point for a lasting peace. Here, check out the map I'm speaking of:
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| quote: | The British Uganda Program was a plan to give a portion of British East Africa to the Jewish people as a homeland.
The offer was first made by British Colonial Secretary Joseph Chamberlain to Theodore Herzl's Zionist group in 1903. He offered 5000 square miles of the Mau Plateau in what is today Kenya. The offer was a response to pogroms against the Jews in Russia, and it was hoped the area could be a refuge from persecution for the Jewish people.
The idea was brought to the World Zionist Organization's Zionist Congress at its sixth meeting in 1903 meeting in Basel. There a fierce debate ensued. The African land was described as an "ante-chamber to the Holy Land", but other groups felt that accepting the offer would make it more difficult to establish a Jewish state in Palestine (the historical land of Israel). Before the vote on the matter the Russian delegation stormed out in opposition. In the end the motion passed by 295 to 177 votes.
The next year a three man delegation was sent to inspect the plateau. Its high elevation gave it a temperate climate making it suitable for European settlement. However, the observers found a dangerous land filled with lions and other creatures. Moreover it was populated by a large number of Maasai who did not seem at all amenable to an influx of Europeans.
After receiving this report the Congress decided in 1905 to politely decline the British offer. Some Jews, who viewed this as a mistake, formed the Jewish Territorialist Organization with the aim of establishing a Jewish state anywhere.[3] A few Jews did move to Kenya, but most settled in the urban centers. Some of these families remain to this day.[citation needed] |
boy the world would of turned out different if israel was located in africa
i don't support zionism because it doesn't make sense. plus israel is racist toward all non-jews that live in israel. and their foreign policy is racist as well... and america mysteriously must support israel at all costs for some strange reason. i never got the memo.
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You're pretty agressive for a submissive bottom! 
Stick a hand granade in your ass and pull the ring, you cameljockey!
