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Originally posted by Theresa Are you on crack dude? I will give it to you that there are some women who have less painful births than others, but you cannot say that they are totally painless, and "in their heads". Have you ever WATCHED a pregnancy? Even watching it is fricken painful. Hell, in a lot of cases they have to use scissors and physically cut the vagina open, or it just rips open on its own. Before we had all of this medical advancement, it was common for women to DIE during birth, so wherever you get this idea that it is painless is beyond me.

Grade 9 Bio class.


Watching that made me not want to have kids for a while.

The worst part, at least in the video they showed us, was right after the kid came out. The chick in the video spewed a shitload of water and blood everywhere.

Placenta's.

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Originally posted by idoru The worst part, at least in the video they showed us, was right after the kid came out. The chick in the video spewed a shitload of water and blood everywhere.

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Originally posted by Frenchie Placenta's.

Yep.

It's called "afterbirth". We need to expel the sac that the baby was held in, so every woman will spew that shit.

BTW, I just posted in the virginity thread, and I also wanted to point out that women can have very painful first times, and sometimes have it really painful for a while. THEN some women can't orgasm, and others have a really hard time orgasming.

We have the shittier end of the stick.

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Originally posted by Theresa We have the shittier end of the stick.

[Obligatory anal sex reference]

Men don't know what we have until they:
1- take women studies
2-study woooomen hard enough
3-are with a women long enough and have gone through all her stages with her.

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Originally posted by Frenchie Men don't know what we have until they: 1- take women studies 2-study woooomen hard enough 3-are with a women long enough and have gone through all her stages with her.

You know, I was totally shocked when I found out that A LOT of men don't even understand what the menstrual cycle is for. Seriously... talk about being clueless.

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Originally posted by Theresa Before we had all of this medical advancement, it was common for women to DIE during birth...

This is true, but kind of misleading. The most important "medical advancements" have been cleanliness and better maternal nutrition, hardly "high tech."

I took Arbiter's basic point as being that the idea of pregnancy as the most taxing ordeal that anyone (or even women) could ever undergo is not by any means universal. It was fairly common for Inuit women to give birth in the middle of the night, alone, and introduce the child to the husband in the morning. In some African tribes women went off, again alone, to give birth and did so without the tremendous amount of group attention and anxiety devoted to the process in Western nations.

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Originally posted by Theresa You know, I was totally shocked when I found out that A LOT of men don't even understand what the menstrual cycle is for. Seriously... talk about being clueless.

+1
Actually come to think of it, I;m not shocked. Men try hard to be ignorant to those type of things you know...they don't want to think of us as something that bleeds for 5-7 days and doesn't die. To them that's kaka nasty, to us it's life.

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Originally posted by Theresa Are you on crack dude? I will give it to you that there are some women who have less painful births than others, but you cannot say that they are totally painless, and "in their heads". Have you ever WATCHED a pregnancy? Even watching it is fricken painful. Hell, in a lot of cases they have to use scissors and physically cut the vagina open, or it just rips open on its own. Before we had all of this medical advancement, it was common for women to DIE during birth, so wherever you get this idea that it is painless is beyond me.

Congratulations, you have just described how childbirth is percieved in western culture. However, the funny thing is that women from other backgrounds would have a very different perception of it.

Don't shoot the messenger, I'm just telling you the way it is. I used to have the same view of childbirth that you do, but I was corrected and after studying the matter more closely realized I was wrong. And, just for the record, the one who did the correcting for me was my own mother.

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Originally posted by Frenchie Watching that made me not want to have kids for a while.

Not really, just made me want to be unconcious for it personally
I've sat through 3 deliveries, sisters, cousins and a freinds and I think its all the screaming, passing out from fright and crying that gets to me, thats just from the husbands. Then the other half will start up actually having the kid.
Nope, its god damn circus in there, just knock me out and hack the little blighter out through a c section thanks!

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Originally posted by Arbiter the one who did the correcting for me was my own mother

Pft, don't lie - you don't have a mother.

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