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Originally posted by DigiNut LOL @ the results of this thread and some of the responses in it. Just goes to show you, if you repeat something loudly enough and often enough, people will believe it, and even make up their own facts and statistics to support it. I think it's being overly generous to even call it a theory. Speculation and junk science might be better choices. The Gulfstream Liberals wish to thank you all for your very important contribution to this important debate.

Great input.

ps. I disagree with the Liberals, Kyoto, and all that BS.

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH But just because Michael Crichton says so doesn't mean it's true.

True. But its based on studies, support. What he's doing is no different than Al Gore. He's read the research, formed an opinion, and it relaying it to the world, same as he. They are both trying to convey their respective points and agendas to us in a way that is easier to assimilate and understand, and/or in a way that will generate more public attention than through just telling ppl to read the actual studies themselves, which wont appeal to laymen as well, or as easily (much harder to read/understand.)

The only difference... they are attempting to prove different viewpoints.

Just bc AL Gore says something doesnt mean it true either. But, as with Crichton, Gore as support and studies and reports backing his opinion which he presents in that report and film An Inconvenient Truth, that the world is so taken with presently.

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I'm not surprised there's a problem with global warming, considering all the hot air in this thread alone.

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Originally posted by jennypie I'm not surprised there's a problem with global warming, considering all the hot air in this thread alone.

bahahah

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Originally posted by Jem_hadar True. But its based on studies. What he's doing is no different than Al Gore. He's read the research, formed an opinion, and it relaying it to teh world, same as he. They are both try to convey their respective points and agendas to us in a way that easier to assimilate and understand, and/or in a way that will generate more public attention than through just telling ppl to read the actual studies themselves, which wont appeal to laymen as well, or as easily (much harder to read/understand.) Only they are attempting to prove different viewpoints. Just bc AL Gore says something doesnt mean it true. Same. But as with Crichton, Gore as support and studies and reports backing his opinion.

Touche But I believed it before Al Gore decided to cash in on the trend and make his little movie.

And yea, we all have a choice on who we want to listen to. I admit that Crichton's side of it is much more thought out than ANYTHING else I've read that disputes the theory of Global Warming. Before it's all "omg its not proven fact therefore its false!!".

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Originally posted by jennypie I'm not surprised there's a problem with global warming, considering all the hot air in this thread alone.

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Originally posted by rabbitjoker LOL! That is a funny, funny statement. Think about it for a second.

What is it that you find so funny about that statement?

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH Touche But I believed it before Al Gore decided to cash in on the trend and make his little movie.

Ditto. In 2003/2004 I became very interested in this topic and started to look into it.

Read 4 or 5 papers on the matters while at UW. God bless the DC Library and procrastination of what I *should* have been working on

Anyways, I was of this opinion years before Crichton expressed his viewpoints. I am really elated to see someone I highly respect share the same opinion though.

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Originally posted by slingshot What is it that you find so funny about that statement?

I think it's "human behaviour"

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Originally posted by evil_cookie sorry but you're both very uneducated on the topic, to say something like that. lol, it's mind boggling...I don't understand how people think they can debate the topic, when there is massive amounts of empirical evidence that's pretty much one sided.

No, there's almost zero empirical evidence, save for about 40 years' worth of temperature measurements from major metropolitan areas. Most scientists can't even agree on how an average temperature is supposed to be measured, and the only empirical evidence from pre-1960s which isn't extrapolated, the CET, clearly shows massive variations, both cyclical and random, and also shows a temperature trend that has been increasing since the 17th century, long before we had any significant source of CO2 emissions.

What's truly mind-boggling is how some otherwise intelligent people are able to claim that there are massive amounts of empirical evidence when they haven't seen any. Unless you count the consensus of several "climate scientists" (who often only have BAs, and whose very careers depend on continuation of the scare) as evidence.

The evidence is a bunch of people saying that there's evidence. And their evidence is more people saying that there's evidence. It's like a gigantic pyramid scheme, or maybe some sort of loop, without any actual physical evidence involved.

I'd be more concerned about bovine emissions than cars. And it's quite possible that my farts over the past 2-3 weeks have increased the local temperature by a few degrees - but not the global temperature.

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