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shiny one
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Registered: Mar 2007
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That's the representation of a psychological theory that relates to happiness. His (Maslow) theory is that before you can reach each higher plane, you must first satisfy all the requirements of the one below it. For instance, if you are starving and without shelter, you are not going to be in deep and meaningful introspection, or concerned about your interpersonal interaction. All your energy will go towards satisfying your need for food & shelter. Likewise, if you can not feel at peace with the stability of your family, you can not be concerned with the well-being of large groups of people whom you do not know.


The point is, with money, each one of those things is easier, and that first level is almost instantly wiped from consideration. True happiness comes all the way at the top, once you've begun to self-actualize (realize your full potential as a person), and if you're stuck fending for yourself to eat and survive, you'll never get there.

But, if people end up providing for their family and what not, and they have plenty of money to go around, if they start just focusing on what they want, it seems to be all they think about. Trust me though, I've met homeless people who seem a lot more happy than very rich people who seem to focus a lot more on just what they want.


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shiny one
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you're right. But they give away increasingly greater portions of their wealth (beyond the fact that their taxes already take bigger & bigger percentages of their income, which then get re-distributed throughout the lower levels--but that's another debate entirely). Hell, Bill Gates has given away something like 40 billion of his 60 billion dollars, and once he dies, it's all going to be gone, save for 1 million for each of his children. It's a lot easier to give away 2/3 of your money when that leaves you with 20 billion dollars than it is when it leaves you with 200.

You're right in a way. With people who are really rich, I guess they know that even if they're stuck with 20 billion, its a bit more then enough. But, just imagine if bill gates gave away 59.99999 billion dollars, and was left with 10,000. That would be a lot harder to do then for a poor person to give away all they had, and I don't think any rich person is going to give away that much of their money any time soon.


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Originally posted by shiny one
But, if people end up providing for their family and what not, and they have plenty of money to go around, if they start just focusing on what they want, it seems to be all they think about. Trust me though, I've met homeless people who seem a lot more happy than very rich people who seem to focus a lot more on just what they want.


A: The point is that at the top, you fulfill all your potential, and that includes providing for others & being charitable. That's part of the whole idea of self-actualization.

B: I'm sure you have met homeless people who seem happier than some very rich people. However, there are faaaaaaaaaaaaar more rich people who are far happier than the hoards of homeless people in the world. A specific example does not make a rule.


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shiny one
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A: The point is that at the top, you fulfill all your potential, and that includes providing for others & being charitable. That's part of the whole idea of self-actualization.

B: I'm sure you have met homeless people who seem happier than some very rich people. However, there are faaaaaaaaaaaaar more rich people who are far happier than the hoards of homeless people in the world. A specific example does not make a rule.

I bet you twords death, a lot of the homeless people will be a lot more happy then most of the rich people, because more of them seem to know where they will surely be.


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Oh man, school... where do I begin...

I think the main flaw of most schools is that they don't frame learning as something fun and positive. For me, it's always been made into such a chore.

There's also a problem with students not understanding why some things are taught. It'd be so much more motivating if all that information was put into context: comparing it to something previously learned, etc. It would serve as a mnemonic. If you can put things in relation to one another, they're so much easier to remember. I don't see a lot of that in school.

For so many years, I didn't do my homework because I was smart enough to pass without. Now, I've run into problems because I'm simply not used to studying. The thought of studying literally gives me a headache. I wish I had been given more of a challenge when I was younger, so I could've grown accustomed to always pushing forward. Now I face the need of a major behavioral change.

Eh, I'm done venting.

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shiny one
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Oh man, school... where do I begin...

I think the main flaw of most schools is that they don't frame learning as something fun and positive. For me, it's always been made into such a chore.

There's also a problem with students not understanding why some things are taught. It'd be so much more motivating if all that information was put into context: comparing it to something previously learned, etc. It would serve as a mnemonic. If you can put things in relation to one another, they're so much easier to remember. I don't see a lot of that in school.

For so many years, I didn't do my homework because I was smart enough to pass without. Now, I've run into problems because I'm simply not used to studying. The thought of studying literally gives me a headache. I wish I had been given more of a challenge when I was younger, so I could've grown accustomed to always pushing forward. Now I face the need of a major behavioral change.

Eh, I'm done venting.

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Actually, a bunch of nails in the head. I Iove learning new stuff, BUT ONLY AS LONG AS IT'S INTERESTING. All homework seems to do sometime is makes learning that much more boring. I don't think I'm gonna have very good work ethic, just because of how I am with homework. It's so tough for me to get focused at home because I kind of see it as if you already spend almost half of your awake time at school, they shouldn't give you work after you get home. I think the whole school system is full of something nasty. Instead of teaching you, the teachers and schools are just saying I don't care about how these students learn, I just want to be recognized for having students who get the highest test scores. I agree with all you say. I don't get challenged now either, and you're kind of making me think hey, maybe I should do something that will challenge me. I guess I might find it all fun, but yeah, I don't think it will pay off later.
By the way, I added you. Don't meet enough people who feel the same way I do lol.


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OMG, you were born on the 15th of January!


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shiny one
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Yeah. Lol, my sisters birthday was on the 14th.


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So basically your problem is that you're an average angst-ridden American teenager.

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shiny one
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Lol, I just don't like a lot of things about school. Go back to pooping on your moms chest and let me get back to something useful.
Just kidding (unless I was right)


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Old Post Mar-10-2007 05:05  United States
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Yeah. Lol, my sisters birthday was on the 14th.

"was"?

(And mine is on the 15th as well, that's why I was surprised )


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"was"?

(And mine is on the 15th as well, that's why I was surprised )

OHHH lol sorry, I didn't get why you were suprised at first.


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