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Originally posted by MASTER AL my family is from iraq and you think american soldiers are keeping it safe there huh? i laugh at you , you guys have no idea what the innocent families go through. you think its just because america took saddam out they can take over ones country and disrespect the people that way...even if they are authority fine move out the way but the soldiers are disrespectful and im glad they cut their heads off when captured..fuck any one who thinks its right what americans are doing.

Buddy, the people who are down there on the ground are not "America". I'm so fucking tired of this bullshit argument. The soldiers didn't make the choice to go invade Iraq. The government did. These people were just enlisted in the service when it happened. All these fellas are doing is just trying to keep their ass safe so that hopefully they can one day return to their homeland. Respect for others' property goes right out of the window when the others are constantly trying to shoot you/blow you up. Get a grip on reality - this is a warzone, not a leisurely sunday drive.

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Originally posted by MASTER AL its because of people like you, why others wanna blow things up

You're right. Strapping explosives to your kid, and then using your kid as an excuse to drive your car into a crowd full of people so you can blow them all up is a very noble thing to do. How silly of us to think otherwise.

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Originally posted by MASTER AL my family is from iraq and you think american soldiers are keeping it safe there huh? i laugh at you , you guys have no idea what the innocent families go through. you think its just because america took saddam out they can take over ones country and disrespect the people that way...even if they are authority fine move out the way but the soldiers are disrespectful and im glad they cut their heads off when captured..fuck any one who thinks its right what americans are doing.

the next time someone cuts me off ill cut their fucking head off!

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Originally posted by Cosmic Fur Buddy, the people who are down there on the ground are not "America". I'm so fucking tired of this bullshit argument. The soldiers didn't make the choice to go invade Iraq. The government did. These people were just enlisted in the service when it happened. All these fellas are doing is just trying to keep their ass safe so that hopefully they can one day return to their homeland. Respect for others' property goes right out of the window when the others are constantly trying to shoot you/blow you up. Get a grip on reality - this is a warzone, not a leisurely sunday drive.

i understand what you are saying and true the soldiers did not ask to go there, but you said they did not ask to INVADE? so you do agree its an invasion and because of this it has started a civil war if you dont know and I KNOW THESE FACTIONS ARE EXTREMIST AND MUST BE DEALT WITH but not at the cost of my families blood out there and the soldiers dont help by acting in a way where they think their above the people and make em look like they dont matter. if they are their to help bumping cars on the road does no show me they HELP. america wants to keep their soldiers in iraq to fight al quida! THERE IS NO FUCKING PRESENCE OF AL QUIDA IN IRAQ, there are the shiyads and suni's they are the ones shooting at each other in streets.

Enough with the driving video debate.

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at this point the soldiers cant leave anyway because of what the government did, and if they were to comeback home iraq will cease to exist because of the problems america stirred up..but this is america's way to get what they want..more oil more money more power

What you say is very true MasterAl but saying that americans who care captured or anyone for that matter she be beheaded is not the best way to get your point across. I am doing my final paper for college on the War in Iraq, and I agree it is complete bullshit what the Americans are doing/did, but as you said, if they leave now, it will only get worse. That being said, the UN and especially the United States need to ensure things do not get worse between the shyiad and suni's. Unfortunatley it sucks for the American Soldiers and Iraqis who were forced into this fucked up position just for some kind of economic benefits(oil).

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Ugh. I knew hoping for a rational and logical discussion on Iraq was beyond hopeless. *le sigh*

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Originally posted by above'N'beyond This video angers me beyond anything. I know it is not the individual soldiers' fault and they are just protecting their own asses, but this video is just representative of the whole american regime, shock and awe!!!! those bastards.....look at the mess theyve created.

So just because Humvees have to bump cars to get them out of their way, that's representative of evil America?

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Originally posted by MASTER AL my family is from iraq and you think american soldiers are keeping it safe there huh? i laugh at you , you guys have no idea what the innocent families go through. you think its just because america took saddam out they can take over ones country and disrespect the people that way...

You had a point and I'd agree that things are less than perfect, and Americans have made a lot of mistakes in Iraq, then you said...

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even if they are authority fine move out the way but the soldiers are disrespectful and im glad they cut their heads off when captured..fuck any one who thinks its right what americans are doing.

And lost any credibility of any rational or logical argument you could have made with that comment.

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Originally posted by MASTER AL its because of people like you, why others wanna blow things up

I think he called bastards those people who are deliberately targeting civillians, or use tactics that disregard safety of civillians, not the avg Iraqis who just wanna live their life.

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Originally posted by MASTER AL i understand what you are saying and true the soldiers did not ask to go there, but you said they did not ask to INVADE? so you do agree its an invasion and because of this it has started a civil war if you dont know and I KNOW THESE FACTIONS ARE EXTREMIST AND MUST BE DEALT WITH but not at the cost of my families blood out there and the soldiers dont help by acting in a way where they think their above the people and make em look like they dont matter. if they are their to help bumping cars on the road does no show me they HELP. america wants to keep their soldiers in iraq to fight al quida! THERE IS NO FUCKING PRESENCE OF AL QUIDA IN IRAQ, there are the shiyads and suni's they are the ones shooting at each other in streets.

America is staying in Iraq b/c of Al Qaeda?

You do know that Iraq has an UN mandate to establish and support the new Iraqi government? (You know, the one that Iraqis voted for?)

Yeah, US is still in it just to save their face (and admit failure if withdrawal from Iraq) but still, it's not US that's causing the majority of problems in Iraq; it's the insurgents who are using the Americans as an excuse to go after each other for whatever reason and putting innocent Iraqi lives at risk.
Yeah, US fucks up and sometimes innocent Iraqis get hurt/killed (and war is not an exact science, esp when the bad guys look just like the civilians), but compared to what the insurgent groups are doing, it pales significantly.

I understand that you're upset that your family in Iraq and they're suffering, but going off on a rant is not going to get you support.

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Originally posted by chinamon not true. i say "ugh" but i am a tranny.

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Originally posted by kotsy lol colour me retarded

This thread needs a Uncle Bin joke, LOL so that everyone can calm down.

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Originally posted by Cyrus King I would try to blow that humvee up if i was an Iraqi

You would blow it up if you were Afghani and a foreign military vehicle was rolling through Kandahar.

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Originally posted by RobotHouse move to iraq then, tough guy

IF I WAS AN IRAQI.. you moron

Go enlist in teh US military if you support this war.. youll get your skull sniped for sure, if you dont go mentally instable.

Fuk the imperialist thieves

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Originally posted by Abercrombie You would blow it up if you were Afghani and a foreign military vehicle was rolling through Kandahar.

Actually.. i would blow up a Taliban fighter if i was an Afghan

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