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Originally posted by EgosXII that's just because it's a relatively new country-- also, doesn't that make america worse, if you agree that it's become so bad?? it's fallen to a place iran has (arguably) always been, but unlike iran, it had the chance for something better

LOL... Nice.

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Originally posted by CHRles America was founded on FREEDOM of RELIGION, and is MULTI-ETHNIC.

True, it was founded on those concepts, but hey, it's come a long way since those days! Imagine if the US would've chosen to uphold all those silly values that the founding fathers intended like privacy and personal freedoms. Can you imagine, they even suggested that the government should do what the people said, not the other way around! Must've been on some good opium those guys, shit.

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Orbax At that point you kind of crossed the rubicon and you might as well lay siege to Rome

They meant well and I really doubt they could foresee that many centuries into the future where their descendants would squander the ideals they fought for. Sure, it wasn't perfect but 20-20 hindsight tends to be easier rather than coming up with something on the spot like they had to and you've got to admit, they did have some lasting value and contribution which was improved upon and maintained for the most part of the US's existence.

Besides, it's just like old money. It rarely lasts more than a few generations before the corpulent, lazy and ignorant waste it because they are very far removed from the principles of which it was earned in the first place.
If you never had to work, you have no idea of money, if you never had to fight for your freedom, you'll never understand what it is until its gone.
The latter I feel is particularly pertinent to a lot of the US's problems right now, for the majority they're quite happy to be muzzle down in the trough filling their bellies to ever bother about tomorrow.
Live for the moment and that little bit of history in the grand scheme of things, instant gratification now and no concern for the mess they leave behind to the generations that follow.

It's a common human flaw, one that isn't endemic to the USA.

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Originally posted by Lilith It's a common human flaw, one that isn't endemic to the USA.

Welcome to the decline of Rome part II, 1800 years later


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Originally posted by Fir3start3r Look, it's easy. NOBODY trusts them with any nuclear capability or they'd already have it. Iran isn't that backward that they wouldn't know what to do with it, however politically, they simply haven't been mature enough to warrant it. If they actually tried to get along with everyone else, they wouldn't be in this issue in the first place.

nobody trusts Israel

The real most dangerous threatening in the MEast.

Israel is a sitting Atom Bomb in Middle East which can blast anytime.. one never knows when they will invade which country next. highly unpredictable..

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Originally posted by Purple Israel is a sitting Atom Bomb in Middle East which can blast anytime.. one never knows when they will invade which country next. highly unpredictable..

Yes Purple, Israel is so evil..... that country is such a powder geg...

lol


Thanks for the laughs bright boy!

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Originally posted by Purple Israel is a sitting Atom Bomb in Middle East which can blast anytime.. one never knows when they will invade which country next. highly unpredictable..

Don't sneeze!
In fact, don't post!

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Originally posted by Purple Israel is a sitting Atom Bomb in Middle East which can blast anytime.. one never knows when they will invade which country next. highly unpredictable..

One never knows when the next suicide bomber will blow up a city bus in Tel Aviv. Remember the 1947 war, the 1967 war, and the 1973 war? Did you forget that Israel was the one being attacked? 1967 may have been preemptive, but when you see opposing armies massing, you don't just sit there.

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Israel has a nuclear bomb and so does america.... How on earth are muslim countries gonna feel safe without one?