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Fir3start3r
Armin Acolyte



Registered: Oct 2001
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada

quote:
Originally posted by Renegade
Far more terrors have been committed in the name of the Bible, remember, than have ever been committed in the name of the Qur'an.


That is VERY debatable considering how the Muslim religion was spread by the sword for so many centuries.
I'm not excusing the Christian religions here but they pale in comparison, especially in today's world.


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shaolin_Z
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Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Austin, Texas, USA: TXTA #102

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r
That is VERY debatable considering how the Muslim religion was spread by the sword for so many centuries.
I'm not excusing the Christian religions here but they pale in comparison, especially in today's world.

LOL, no it wasn't.


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Moral Hazard
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Registered: Mar 2005
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Re: Why DO they call Islam: The Religion of Peace

quote:
Originally posted by LazFX


The religion of peace... It's one of those ironic nick names... like calling a fat guy "Tiny"


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you're just a shit version of Moral Hazard. At least he knows what he's talking about.

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lol, i love it when moral feels the need to lay the smack down

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M.Johan
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Registered: Feb 2007
Location: CAIRO ,EGYPT

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Originally posted by LazFX
don't let your eyes roll out of your head little buddy....


From the 2nd post by shaolin_Z in ur thread

and his Clarifying about the "MISSING" realities about the quran

Beside

My main points about the demoralization on
the both "the religion" and "the culture".

U insist to continue the same DAMNpropaganda on the M.East.


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trewqy
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Registered: Oct 2003
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What I really dont understand about all this.. ALL THIS.. is why the hate?

I dont believe in religion, but whenever a certain race/religious group does something bad, I would never point a finger.

You guys seem so caught up in defending who worships the better god, or this group of people didnt do something as bad as this group of people.

If you believe in a certain religion, practice it and ignore other religions for "GOD's" sake

If you pray 5 times a day, good for you, peace be upon you and hope u end up in heaven.

Simple as that. If you have some personal vendetta against a certain religion, then thats a pity, cause frankly, ur no better than those who commited crimes in the name of religion in the first place.

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tathi
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Christianity is much more moral than Islam, in Australia for fifty five years they stole generations and generations of children from Aboriginal families to have them raised the good ´ol Christian way in internment camps, orphanages and other institutions rife with child abuse and preistly pedophiles, but think of the alternative.... these children may have been raised pagan?

Thank god Constantine and the Roman Empire adopted and bowdlerised Christianity after they spread their hegemony by the sword

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shaolin_Z
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Location: Austin, Texas, USA: TXTA #102

quote:
Originally posted by trewqy
What I really dont understand about all this.. ALL THIS.. is why the hate?

I dont believe in religion, but whenever a certain race/religious group does something bad, I would never point a finger.

You guys seem so caught up in defending who worships the better god, or this group of people didnt do something as bad as this group of people.

If you believe in a certain religion, practice it and ignore other religions for "GOD's" sake

If you pray 5 times a day, good for you, peace be upon you and hope u end up in heaven.

Simple as that. If you have some personal vendetta against a certain religion, then thats a pity, cause frankly, ur no better than those who commited crimes in the name of religion in the first place.

Nice post.


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Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist;
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— because I was not a Jew;
Then they came for me— and there was no one left to speak out for me." -Martin Niemöller

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A MUSLIM leader has told his students that it is "obligatory" for all Muslims to engage in jihad if an Islamic country is under attack, even if it means killing the enemy's children.

Teachings

Sheik Shady Suleiman, a youth leader at Lakemba Mosque in Sydney's southeast, told his students in a one-hour Arabic and English lecture that it would be "self defence" to kill children who were attacking them in battle.

Muslim leaders yesterday attacked the 29-year-old cleric, who has a substantial following in Sydney and is deputy to leader Sheik Taj Din al-Hilali.

They accused him of delivering a message contrary to that of Prophet Mohammed who said children should not be killed in war. Prominent Sydney-based imam Khalil Shami said Sheik Shady's message was "dangerous" because it was open to being misconstrued by young Muslims.

"It is very dangerous," he said. "Because ... he puts in their minds that they have to do this, and he prepares them for something wrong for sure."

Opposing views among Muslims

The nation's leading spiritual Muslim woman Aziza Abdel-Halim said Sheik Shady's message diverged from Islamic teachings that prohibit the killing of children.

In a lecture titled Rulings on Performing Jihad, obtained by The Australian, Sheik Shady differentiates between defensive and offensive jihad and quotes the Prophet by saying anyone who fights to defend their land, soul, and wealth was considered a "Shahid" (martyr).

"If attackers or invaders want to invade a Muslim country or attack a Muslim country then it's obligatory on every Muslim ... to fight and protect the country," he says.

Sheik Shady says while the Prophet condemned the killing of children, "if they are involved then you have to stop them".

"If you have a child carrying a knife and coming to you, or a sword and coming to kill you in the middle of the battle, they (the fighters) are going to look at him and say 'the Prophet said not to touch him' - no, that's wrong."

Sheik defends claims

Sheik Shady, who is lecturing in Britain, yesterday defended his message on jihad, saying it was a part of a series of lectures delivered in 2002, before the Iraq war - and focused on the collection of the traditions of Mohammed - although a copy of the lecture appears on his website dated May 2004.

He said the lecture was delivered to 60 young men who were advanced in Islamic studies and would not take it out of context and was "not an open lecture", despite being on his website.

"When I said children, I did not mean, of course, if you're going to get a five- or seven-year-old coming to attack you, you can stop him," he said yesterday.

"I was talking about self-defence. If you get attacked by someone, then you have the right to defend yourself. It doesn't mean you go kill them, especially if it's someone young."

Sheik Shady said that while it was obligatory for all Muslims to defend an Islamic nation under attack, there were no Muslim countries living under Sharia law that were currently under attack.


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what i wanna know is- why are muslim countries (and only muslim countries) considered "above the law" by muslims when it comes to global politics? why are they deserving of immediate jihadist support from all other muslims? are muslim countries perfect in their conduct to ensure they are never deserving of conflict? yay the taliban! why don't leading muslims seem care about non-muslim states under attack?


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