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| quote: | Originally posted by -g-
let me provide a partial list for you:
Derrick Carter
Little Louie Vega
Jazzy Jeff
Justin Long
Mark Farina
Jesse Rose
Jacob London
Iz & Diz
Claude Von Stroke
Mastiksoul
Switch
Fred Everything
and those are just off the top of my head.
i know they do this because i either know those guys and/or others who know them, and in the case of louie and jazzy jeff they've actually explicitly mentioned it in interviews.
for that matter, you can add me to that list too, and i;m not bragging or whatever, but i do get a ton of shit sent to me from producers and djs as it is. i still feel the need, and am rewarded consistently, for checking the releases every week.
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Understandable but I could provide a laundry list of DJ’s that go in the opposite direction as well. What it boils down to though is that it still is around and relevant and that was never neither of our points I believe. People will have there preferences but what I cannot stand is the vinyl pushers who feel as if a certain amount of respect is not due unless your providing the music on there terms. This can get extremely annoying and is rather distracting. It has been said numerous times in the thread that it’s not the means it’s the music and that is true, however with some artist that is not the case. I think we have both shared our opinions on both sides of the conversation well and while we may have experience and preferences that may differ we still understand one another.
| quote: | Originally posted by -g-
at the end of the day, there's still shit that gets put out on wax that just doesn't come out digitally. and as small as the electonic music world is, not everyone knows everyone to the extent that there's this mass database of music we all just download from.
by and large these digital files get shared through personal file transfers between djs, producers, and labels. if you wanna be lazy and just let the music come to you, its easy to do that too, but djs who rely entirely on that end up not sounding too original. the real djs dig around to find the more osbscure stuff, be that in some weird internet shop nobody knows about, or some odd vinyl shop, the point is the same. that goes for any genre.
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That is always going to be the case but I think that is more relevant in your field of music. For me the majority of the stuff I spin didn’t exist a few years ago so searching around in crates isn’t going to do anything for me. I thing that is a very valid point of the conversation is that in some realms of EDM there is more of a need of that then others. Take your run of the mill Chicago House, West Coast House or even Detroit techno for that matter and over the years it really hasn’t changed much. You can dig up a cut from 8 years ago and probably wouldn’t have a problem finding a spot for it with some of the more recent tracks. So Vinyl is still a very important part in that there are still gems our there waiting to be found and have not and will not even be released on vinyl. In my spectrum that isn’t the case, there might a few here and there but its all about either unreleased stuff and edits or productions created by yourself which is what I do.
| quote: | Originally posted by -g-
maybe he really is very good technically; i've never heard him so i don't know. but i'll say if he is, then he is entirely misrepresenting himself in that quote.
setting up cue points for loops, etc. is great and all, but ultimately just makes things a lil easier. u can do exactly the same thing manually, and i'd certainly hope he's using more than 2 decks anyway.
you might be able to tell from the djs i listed above, and the fact i've never heard holden, that my musical preferences are not with the prog/trance thing... i find the djs i've heard in those genres almost uniformly boring, from a technical standpoint. i like very aggressive mixing, beat juggling, 3 deck stuff with acapellas thrown in and weird, non electronic stuff playing over top, and done so fast, on the fly, worrying about the correct speed as you go rather than taking time to work it out in the cue. i also come from a hip hop background, so you might see where i'm coming from with regards to technique there. |
I understand what you’re saying to a certain degree but I feel as if your still misunderstanding what he said a little wrong. I think that might have a little to do with the genre of music that you specialize.
I wouldn’t expect to here Carter running ableton remixing on the fly, looping and throwing down effects and extra snythns on top of things. It just wouldn’t work but our realm of music (techno, minimal, tech-house, neu-prog) those are things that are necessary primary due to the loop based production methods.
Techno and the latter can be rather repetitive and such and those technologies allow us to make it more interesting and diverse. Using just turntables two mix records back and forth doesn’t hold any water to using two CDJ’s and tracktor or ableton over it. I am sure he respects vinyl just like I do however for us its doesn’t give enough options. Yes you maybe be able to juggle, throw down accapelas and such but honestly I have been there done that and find it to be rather boring now and I feel a lot of limitations in that system of presenting music. But like we have said before what works for some doesn’t for others.
Holden also doesn’t play prog/trance and hasn’t for years now but I know you said your not familiar with him. I can’t stand that stuff either and its not what I play or personally respect. He spins shit that is completely impossible to put into a genre which is sort of the way I am spin which is why I respect him so much. Anyways though .. lol
| quote: | Originally posted by -g-
yeah i know(the +1 thing). i think tho that there's this all pervasive idea that vinyl is not relevant today, and i think its just selling things a little bit shorter than is the case, and that some may not realize the extent to which vinyl is still used today, even in a sort of roundabout way. it won't be long before it really is kinda of not relevant, but not yet!
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I am completely agree and have not agreed with people saying that in the thread either. A lot of the people on this board though are fans of the more “progressive” styles of music in which the majority of the artist they listen to haven’t touched a vinyl in 5 years. Its around and will continue to be, I just hate people using it as a way to not give people proper respect that is all. Making people believe that if they don’t spin it that they are not a real DJ and shit just drives me crazy.
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hmmmmm - my website seems to be working ok for me here.
you mean this one? -- > www.djmikegleeson.com |
its working now and shit
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