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gehzumteufel
In your ass



Registered: Nov 2005
Location: so cal

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Are you seriously just not reading? Or thinking? I have not said that they should not be punished or incarcerated for what they've done. I totally agree that it's pretty much the most horrendous thing that one person can do to another, and yes, I would be quite pissed if somebody I knew was raped. But just as there should be separation of church and state, there should be separation of emotion and state - justice is not there to exact revenge or to satiate your bloodlust - it's to protect specific instances from occurring again (however much it fails at that) through punishment. Just because the people are angry and want to see death does not make it right. Do rapists and pedophiles deserve any better? Of course not. But the satisfaction of deserving is not and should not be in the hands of the government nor should it belong to the desires of an angry mob of people who had fuck-all nothing to do with the situation but show their support of one another because they think that it elevates them to some incarnation of noble brutality.

honestly i generally agree. emotions shouldnt be involved in government nor be the determinate factor for things in life. theres just 2 things i cant stand and unfortunately they do get to me. this is one of them and the other is domestic abuse.

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DJ_Eternal
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Lira
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Let the kids hang em all, I say!


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dj tek
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quote:
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Let the kids hang em all, I say!

on some children of the corn type shit..


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Slylee
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quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
honestly i generally agree. emotions shouldnt be involved in government nor be the determinate factor for things in life. theres just 2 things i cant stand and unfortunately they do get to me. this is one of them and the other is domestic abuse.


this is why there shouldn't be a female president. haha can u imagine when she's PMSing?


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montana
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since childmolestors,predators and scumbags rarely get to share rooms with "normal" criminals. you don't really have to order a deathsentance, you want these scum dead, put them with normal criminals. they will be gone faster than cake infront of a fatkid


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dj tek
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since childmolestors,predators and scumbags rarely get to share rooms with "normal" criminals. you don't really have to order a deathsentance, you want these scum dead, put them with normal criminals. they will be gone faster than cake infront of a fatkid

good point.

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Originally posted by Ian
I'm pro the death penalty for the simple reason that to me, when somebody sinks that low, we shouldn't have to have them in society. Years ago we'd have just sent them to australia, but nowadays they'd get out, so they should be killed.


I understand where you're coming from, Ian, but state-sponosred murder / revenge? Death Penalty is revenge, not punishment. And no, it's not a detterent either. Do you also extend the death penalty to a 16 year-old raping a 15-year old?

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Are you seriously just not reading? Or thinking? I have not said that they should not be punished or incarcerated for what they've done. I totally agree that it's pretty much the most horrendous thing that one person can do to another, and yes, I would be quite pissed if somebody I knew was raped. But just as there should be separation of church and state, there should be separation of emotion and state - justice is not there to exact revenge or to satiate your bloodlust - it's to protect specific instances from occurring again (however much it fails at that) through punishment. Just because the people are angry and want to see death does not make it right. Do rapists and pedophiles deserve any better? Of course not. But the satisfaction of deserving is not and should not be in the hands of the government nor should it belong to the desires of an angry mob of people who had fuck-all nothing to do with the situation but show their support of one another because they think that it elevates them to some incarnation of noble brutality.


Well said.


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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Hanging pedophiles does not stop pedophilia. It may very well stop a single person, but whatever you do to them will not fix anything that they have done. Yeah, that's pretty much the same for most crimes. I'm quite aware of that. But get off your fucking convictions that you're doing the world a bit of good by vaporizing sick people. Oh, and eat less red meat. Please.


like I said, no one here has actually come up with an alternative solution. After your cry session you switch over to personal attacks.

You proved my point as did Ripped Bag. You guys are useless.

and because youll say im using a personal attack: youre the ones saying the system is wrong, not me. Its your place to propose the change not criticise and have everyone else do the work.

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gehzumteufel
In your ass



Registered: Nov 2005
Location: so cal

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
this is why there shouldn't be a female president. haha can u imagine when she's PMSing?

amen!

oh and i kinda wish the jails were like russian jails. you get tattoed depending on your crime and you also are in a hierarchical structure that is dependent on your crime and how you assert yourself.

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gehzumteufel
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Registered: Nov 2005
Location: so cal

no matter what happens no form of punishment will ever deter a deranged person from comitting a crime in which they see as just.

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Orbax
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quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
no matter what happens no form of punishment will ever deter a deranged person from comitting a crime in which they see as just.


theres punishment and vengeance built into the system. Humans arent going to be able to change that. No matter how veiled in noble pursuits a legal system is, theres always a human element, and that human has emotions.

What you need to ask is if the benefits to punishment outweigh them going free.

Again, Im not seeing anyone actually arguing about putting them away or euthanizing them. its mainly that we should be crying out of our weiners or something while we do it.

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