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Originally posted by all-nite-freak trance today is meant to stand around and have your hands in the air...possibly accompanied by several hours of monotonous pogo dancing...really dancing to todays trance can be more awkward than masturbating with a cheese grater. It is a genre that has lost its balls.

lol

its very true...show me one person actually dancing at a trance event...

jump jump jump jump *trance pistols* jump jump jump....lame

J00F expresses many things I agree with... it just doesn't help that the "article" (somewhere between an interview and a story) was written at a second-grade reading level. Plus: Koxbox, a relative unknown? I mean, who is writing this shit, and have they just gotten into EDM in the last two years?

"The future of music... isn't music..."

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Originally posted by theognis1002 im new to the trance scene so... whats not entrancing about the new stuff? (im not trying to protect it or anything... im just wondering" wats so different about the old stuff (setting asaide how its marketed and the aim of the song) structure? sounds? i dont get it... sorry

download this set from the mediafire link. Trance can't be much better than that.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Another one of those responses that assumes "psy" and "trance" are different things. They're not. Psy is one type of trance.

stop being picky for god sake i know psy is still trance but of course their different why do u think its called psy-trance. Are tech-trance and trance the same thing aswell?

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Technically, it's all referred to as "that techno stuff".

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Originally posted by david.michael Technically, it's all referred to as "that techno stuff".

liebing wouldn't play the poop armin calls tech trance

I think this "music with your heart"-thing is caused by to many producer who have no real connection with the dance scene. They have never been there and experienced what music can be like when mixed with dancing.
Would "bedroom-producers" be the right word to use to describe these kind of producers?? I don't think it's entierly correct but never mind.

Like back in the days, producers had a more direct connection, djs who spun was in the middle of the club scene communicating with the crowd.
Maybe they knew how to make the right kind of music to move the mind.


You can ask yourself, what happened then?
Could it be internet and radio shows?
Internet radio shows, or internet djing, doesn't have the same principles of communication with the crowd, you can spin in whatever pace and you don't really have to care about building up the whole set in such a way that the listeners will reach a euphoric climax home in their chairs (in my oppinion like a good dj should).

Mixing this with the avability of freely downloadable music tools i believe many newcomming producers adapted this generic internet radio show-formula. Perhaps some djs aswell...


But i feel i haven't been around with the scene enough to back up this theory... It's just something i imagine could be the reason why some people won't "produce with the heart".

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im glad john stopped by and defended his perspective.
the interview was a bit twisted.
with that said, why cant everyone just STFU and make/listen to edm.
who cares about mainstream, underground, and shit.
i like some of both, and i like my meat rare.
i'll eat that shit and dont stop me.

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Originally posted by washout i'll eat shit

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Originally posted by washout im glad john stopped by and defended his perspective. the interview was a bit twisted. with that said, why cant everyone just STFU and make/listen to edm. who cares about mainstream, underground, and shit. i like some of both, and i like my meat rare. i'll eat that shit and dont stop me.

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike It's okay everyone, John is allowed to say these things because he only plays 'intelligent trance.' Oh yea, and a little bit of Psy!!1onetwobucklemyshoe

Point.

And ironically, this isn't the most intelligent of interviews.

Fair enough, what he's saying is true; trance is over-commercialised and it's become more and more formulaic over the last 7 or 8 years. But I thought his rambling about the top 40 was a bit childish, like an indie kid who abandons his favourite band as soon as they become popular and get some fans.

Also, I'm pretty sure j00f has gone through periods of playing sets weighted with riff-based melodic trance...certainly around the turn of the millennium. And he has released mix albums containing tracks like 'PPK - Resurection', so this all smacks of hypocrisy just a bit.

This interview is perhaps not quite as embarrassing as when Gareth Emery pulled the same stunt, but it's certainly up there. Respected DJs like this should let the music do the talking, instead of taking a moral highground, attacking a popular type of EDM in an attempt to make themselves look more intelligent than other DJs.

Everything he has said here has been said before anyway.
Come on John, it's 2007 now.

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