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Trance Nutter
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Adelaide, Australia

ah, so many stupid illinformed stereotypes floating in this thread.


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Old Post Aug-11-2007 08:32  Australia
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Domesticated
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quote:
Originally posted by Trance Nutter
ah, so many stupid illinformed stereotypes floating in this thread.


If that was directed at me, I went to one of "the best" private boys schools from age ten to age eighteen, so I know exactly what it is and isn't like.


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echosystm
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quote:
Originally posted by Beat Blog
degrees are more important these days


Even though I'm in a 4 year commerce degree... I have to disagree with this. I strongly believe you're unlikely to achieve real financial security and early retirement if you're working for someone else, but this is what uni prepares you for. Times HAVE changed; I dont think super/benefits can really cover you for your last ~30 years on the planet anymore. I can't say I know any family friends etc. which have become wealthy from working for someone else, most run businesses or make the majority of their earnings "on the side".

Uni is probably the worst place to gain a skill base. I'm in second year, but only 1 in 4 subjects has actually been really worthwile. I'm in it for the paper.

I'm really steering this thread off course haha. I'll stfu now.

Old Post Aug-11-2007 09:36  Australia
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Trance Nutter
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Registered: Aug 2002
Location: Adelaide, Australia

quote:
Originally posted by Beat Blog
If that was directed at me, I went to one of "the best" private boys schools from age ten to age eighteen, so I know exactly what it is and isn't like.


exactly. People have it in their heads that private school = only the top schools (ie the Scotchs etc).
There are many more private schools than just the stupidly rich ones, and they have very different student demographics across the range of schools.

So yes, you (among others) are generating stupid and illinformed stereotypes which may fit for some students in the top schools but certainly not all and certainly doesn't take into account students which come from private schools which aren't like the top schools.


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Old Post Aug-11-2007 09:46  Australia
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gumble
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Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Melbourne

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm

Uni is probably the worst place to gain a skill base.


what uni are you at?

because that statement is really not true at all....


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Domesticated
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quote:
Originally posted by Trance Nutter
exactly. People have it in their heads that private school = only the top schools (ie the Scotchs etc).
There are many more private schools than just the stupidly rich ones, and they have very different student demographics across the range of schools.

So yes, you (among others) are generating stupid and illinformed stereotypes which may fit for some students in the top schools but certainly not all and certainly doesn't take into account students which come from private schools which aren't like the top schools.


That's a very fair point, which I agree heartily with, hence why I mentioned early on in the thread that, in using the words "private school", I meant only the "top" schools like Scotch, because that's where, on the whole, the snobby attitudes and "must-have-a-degree" thoughts stem from. Other schools like P.E.G.S, De La Salle, Marcellin etc tend to be far more down to earth and seem like a glorified public schools than private schools.

Echosystm, I find it hard to believe that you say you don't know a single Scotch kid who went to uni, when around 90% of school leavers at places like Scotch go onto university.

You must have been hanging around with the 10% of battlers who couldn't make it.


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gumble
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Registered: Apr 2002
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i went to scotch... (in tas)

i felt i had a very sheltered life after leaving it.
but i wouldnt trade it for the education i got.
im at uni (honours), and my "life skills" have been learnt through leaving home at 17 and putting myself through uni, completely.


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quote:
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i went to scotch... (in tas)

i felt i had a very sheltered life after leaving it.
but i wouldnt trade it for the education i got.
im at uni (honours), and my "life skills" have been learnt through leaving home at 17 and putting myself through uni, completely.


Shit yeah, that will do it!

I was kicked out of home at 18 and came back not long after, but I learnt a hell of a lot in that time!


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Trance Nutter
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quote:
Originally posted by Beat Blog
I find it hard to believe that you say you don't know a single Scotch kid who went to uni, when around 90% of school leavers at places like Scotch go onto university.

You must have been hanging around with the 10% of battlers who couldn't make it.


I didn't say that


I actually don't know anyone who went to Scotch at all (I don't think)


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Sorry, got you mixed up:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
Funny you say that...

My close group of 5 friends from Scotch (private):
Carpenter
Plumber
Unemployed
Pizza delivery boy
Unemployed

My close group of 6 friends from Unley (public - where I went):
Law
Commerce
Engineering
Satellite photographer (never went to uni though)
Commerce
IT/multimedia


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echosystm
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quote:
Originally posted by Beat Blog
You must have been hanging around with the 10% of battlers who couldn't make it.


They're not cool enough to be in that group

Old Post Aug-11-2007 12:18  Australia
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eRRaTiK
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Registered: Nov 2002
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quote:
Originally posted by gumble
what uni are you at?

because that statement is really not true at all....


I would say it's probably true for him but not for you.

The value that I got out of uni had nothing to do with the subjects that I did at the time, or the degree that I ended up with. It was the life skills that are not quantifiable through exams/assessments that gave me the most value, and I only realised it when I entered the workforce (real world) and applied those things.

I'm referring to skills such as communication, working within a team, leading a team, meeting deadlines, and researching information. I also made friends that are still in my life today.


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