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radshuffle
dirty jolene pusher



Registered: Jan 2006
Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Old Post Sep-07-2007 20:47  Australia
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Dean Millson
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Registered: Jul 2005
Location: Below the bassline...

quote:
Originally posted by Light The Fuse
so why are you on TRANCEADDCIT?


well i still listen to it and most of it is shit and i find it disapointing so i speak my mind.
And now there are no repercussions its even better!




cos it can be the best thing ever - i heard it - and i want it to be like that again.



how will the time of postage change shit?

i dont get home till 9pm so it inhibits my ability to post - so what?

my point is this :- more than any form of music trance has been fucked over the last 10 years. if trance was still good youd still be listening to it - and not have had to find something more interesting.
but trance has been fucked and thats why you did.


Jules stop making such a goddam fucking fool of yourself. So what? You've spent the last two weeks getting completely fucking wasted and posting bullshit across the internet (ITM also). You look like a fool and it's pretty sad imo - grow up...


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Old Post Sep-07-2007 21:12  Australia
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ONION
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Registered: Oct 2000
Location: Melbourne

Jules - out of curiosity mangz... Why would there be repercussions, for stating your opinion on a genre you are obviously passionate about?

Old Post Sep-07-2007 21:22  Australia
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pkcRAISTLIN
arbiter's chief minion



Registered: Jul 2002
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drum and bass has always been and will always be utter shit.


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gumble
doing the fat gut strut!



Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Melbourne

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
drum and bass has always been and will always be utter shit.


haha, the thing is you've reiterated yourself time and time again, that you are stuck in your comfort zone of eurodance and really know shit all about music. why anyone would listen to you doesn't bear thought.


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Tranceilvania
indoctrinated PSY addict



Registered: May 2001
Location: In a doof

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
drum and bass has always been and will always be utter shit.

At least its better than whats presented as trance nowadays.
I repeat Armin White was utter bullshit. I did not admit at first but yeah man it was shit. Should have gone to Hernan Cattaneo's show a day earlier. Bummer...

Old Post Sep-08-2007 09:29  Australia
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pkcRAISTLIN
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Registered: Jul 2002
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quote:
Originally posted by gumble
haha, the thing is you've reiterated yourself time and time again, that you are stuck in your comfort zone of eurodance


"comfort zone"? wtf does that mean? you get a degree in psychology wankerisms?

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and really know shit all about music. why anyone would listen to you doesn't bear thought.


because youre such a fucking expert? word to the wise- youre just another punter. you aint a muso, ergo you know fuck all. so we can both know fuck all together


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gumble
doing the fat gut strut!



Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Melbourne

comfort zone means you stick with one thing; eurodance, and arent willing to venture out.

yes, i am just a "punter". im the guy who turns over his hard earned to go see bands (and djs, although ever so rarely). but i've explored so many types of music, which is something you havent (unless your internet persona is an ignorant representation of your self?)

and when do "musos" necessarily have to know anything about music. there are plenty of "musos" out there who can play an instrument, or write a melody. doesnt mean they have produced something noteworthy (pardon the pun).

film critics don't normally make films, music critics don't normally play or write music. its about the final product, and though someone may have put in many hours into it, its down to me to decide where it sits in terms of achievement (leaving aside bashing away, simply for the pure enjoyment of creating).

anyway, please don't ever class me with you again.


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pkcRAISTLIN
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quote:
Originally posted by gumble
comfort zone means you stick with one thing; eurodance, and arent willing to venture out.


haha. youre a dickhead. that has nothing to do with a comfort zone.

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yes, i am just a "punter". im the guy who turns over his hard earned to go see bands (and djs, although ever so rarely). but i've explored so many types of music, which is something you havent (unless your internet persona is an ignorant representation of your self?)


oh, i see. liking lots of different types of music makes you an expert. not easily entertained, not fickle, but a wise and educated superior listener.

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and when do "musos" necessarily have to know anything about music. there are plenty of "musos" out there who can play an instrument, or write a melody. doesnt mean they have produced something noteworthy (pardon the pun).


yah, but being able to play and/or write means they know more than you do. there's a big fucking difference between an educated listener and an actual musician.

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film critics don't normally make films, music critics don't normally play or write music.


those that can't do, teach? and to be fair, you can't really classify yourself in the same category until your soapbox is more than auTA

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its about the final product, and though someone may have put in many hours into it, its down to me to decide where it sits in terms of achievement


haha, yeah i agree. but me hating DnB has nothing to do with comfort zones or knowing nothing about music. i was sneaking into pubs to see live bands when you were still learning to masturbate.


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Fpcookie
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Registered: Oct 2004
Location: melbourne

if he says he doesnt like a genre doesnt that mean he has in fact ventured out of his "comfort zone" and listened to other styles?

maybe he just doesnt like them?

Old Post Sep-08-2007 11:26  Australia
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gumble
doing the fat gut strut!



Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Melbourne

besides a couple of "metal" bands, ive never seen pkc comment constructively or informatively on any other music besides trance.

hence my previous comment on his "internet persona"


i'm not trying to elevate myself to any position. i listen to a lot of music, i love a lot of styles, i hate even more. all i'm trying to point out is that having a very closed (as is perceived across TA) music taste, and a low acceptance of anything that doesn't fit a tried and true method is limiting yourself incredibly. and further to this, doesn't give a huge basis to express an apparently naive opinion.

and having a few years on me doesn't really mean anything; experience isn't rationed out on a per annum basis.

au.ta makes up a very small slice of my "soapbox", i openly criticise music with almost anyone. critism by no means derogatory.

finally, not having learnt an instrument doesn't correlate with a low level of creativity, nor an understanding of what sounds good and what doesn't. people have different tastes, but not everyone's opinion holds the same weight.


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pkcRAISTLIN
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Registered: Jul 2002
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quote:
Originally posted by gumble
besides a couple of "metal" bands, ive never seen pkc comment constructively or informatively on any other music besides trance.


to be fair, im pretty sure i havent made any constructive or informative comments about music fullstop

quote:

i'm not trying to elevate myself to any position. i listen to a lot of music, i love a lot of styles, i hate even more. all i'm trying to point out is that having a very closed (as is perceived across TA) music taste, and a low acceptance of anything that doesn't fit a tried and true method is limiting yourself incredibly.


and i thought i was an arrogant cvnt! i dont choose what to like, it chooses me

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and further to this, doesn't give a huge basis to express an apparently naive opinion.


lols. but your (vocal) distaste for trance, on fucking tranceaddict ffs is somehow different from my distaste for DnB? you're the one with the naive opinion, by (somehow) being able to categorise someone's "musicality" derived from their dislike of a particular genre.

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and having a few years on me doesn't really mean anything; experience isn't rationed out on a per annum basis.


of course it doesn't. im just being the same superior prick as you

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au.ta makes up a very small slice of my "soapbox", i openly criticise music with almost anyone. critism by no means derogatory.


my point was that critics have columns, books, tv shows, magazines, newspapers etc. they are paid to give their opinion on artists or performers. you compared yourself to a critic, which youre not.

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finally, not having learnt an instrument doesn't correlate with a low level of creativity, nor an understanding of what sounds good and what doesn't.


absolutely. but musicians have more of both, assuming they have some talent. you will find musicians are far more capable of judging what sounds good and what doesn't. same as a zoologist would know more about animals than a political scientist

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people have different tastes, but not everyone's opinion holds the same weight.


of course, but judging someone's "musicality" because they only really like one genre of edm is just a bit silly


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