"drunk driving" is not a legal term. Impared driving is. Most people who have a few drinks (4-8) then drive a couple hours later are legally impared. Do yourself a favour people don't do it...its expensive as hell if you get caught.

This has been another public service announcment from someone who has 'been there and done that' unfortunately.

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regardless of whether you are a good driver when tipsy or not, there are also other factors involved, like if someone crashes into you, or something on your car breaks causing you to crash and you would get a dui for both of those (if you were over the legal limit). one of my friends was 5 minutes from his house, his axle broke and he crashed and there was a police near by. unlucky.

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Originally posted by Beat Blog 4. I'm an extremely conscientious and competent driver.

Its funny, pretty much every 20-something male says this.

Its funny, pretty much every 20-something male is wrong. Especially so in Australia. It also doesn't matter one damn bit when you're impared by alcohol.

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Originally posted by Trance Nutter Its funny, pretty much every 20-something male says this. Its funny, pretty much every 20-something male is wrong. Especially so in Australia. It also doesn't matter one damn bit when you're impared by alcohol.

i've just read a local story about a 21 yr old guy who died in his car last xmas after being 1.5x the legal limit, not sleeping and so on & his family were moaning about it, because they disputed he had the recorded level of alcohol in his body, rather than admitting he was stupid, made a big mistake & was lucky only to take himself to the grave.

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Originally posted by Trance Nutter Its funny, pretty much every 20-something male says this. Its funny, pretty much every 20-something male is wrong. Especially so in Australia. It also doesn't matter one damn bit when you're impared by alcohol.

That's a fair call - however I have the record to back it up.

I've never had an accident in my life, and never a speeding fine.

For work I drive anywhere between 400 and 1200kms in a week, in a variety of conditions, rarely in the same location - hence my experience is far wider than others my age.

For the record, I know it was completely wrong to drink drive. I'll admit; I'm a fucking idiot, and hypocritical too, since I hate drink drivers myself. It's only the second time I've ever done it intentionally, hopefully it won't happen again.

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Originally posted by Trance Nutter Especially so in Australia. It also doesn't matter one damn bit when you're impared by alcohol.

I disagree. I think being a conscientious driver makes a huge difference driving on substances, whether it's alcohol or drugs.

When I know I'm tired, I purposely double my following distance because I know my reactions aren't as sharp. I drive 5k's slower, I don't fuck with the stereo, I don't eat/drink, and basically do everything else I can to keep my distance from potential hazards. Most people aren't this conscientious; they just jump in the car and think "I'm going to drive from A to B now, so I can switch off; I do this every day", and don't keep in mind the condition their body is in. They don't concentrate.

If I drive drunk, my driver behaviour changes immensely as per above. The biggest thing is not talking to people in the car - this is what really gets you - the distractions.

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Originally posted by fayraree I can't believe you're still justifying your actions.

well he has a point though. I think he should have used the word impaired though instead of drunk. he knows what impairments alcohol has on driving and pays extra attention to those. BUT there comes a time when you can become so impaired that even these precautions are not enough and you should avoid driving all together.


but certain humans can drive while impaired and some can't. Its also why some older people can drive and some cannot, some become too impaired to drive.


i also consider myself a conscientious driver, my g/f can attest to this when she tries to talk while i drive...'hey look at that house, its nice looking, why aren't you looking...are you listening!'...to my reply, 'IM DRIVING!' and that is just mid afternoon driving, and she is terrible at driving, she always pays attention to things other than the road.

so i think there is a huge qualitative difference in drivers in which some can handle mild impairments and still drive safely while others have constant natural impairments to driving and any additional impairments will make it very unsafe for them to drive.

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Originally posted by Boomer187 so i think there is a huge qualitative difference in drivers in which some can handle mild impairments and still drive safely while others have constant natural impairments to driving and any additional impairments will make it very unsafe for them to drive.

Agreed, but...

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Originally posted by Boomer187 there comes a time when you can become so impaired that even these precautions are not enough and you should avoid driving all together.

...there is too fine a line between that "self-acceptable" level of impairment vs. the "unacceptable" level which would cause your senses to miss one little detail on the road which could mean the difference of an accident or not, which is why the "self-acceptable" level of impairment should be avoided altogether, as it gives a false sense of confidence to people like you and the writer of this thread.

Completely unacceptable in today's world, and it has nothing to do with political correctness. Just get a Muslim friend who doesn't drink as a designated driver ffs.

Yeah there are some people I'd rather down half a bottle of vodka and drive than ever let them touch the wheel sober or otherwise.

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WOW!!!! In the SIMPLIST terms...if not for any other reason than the Bull you go through for getting caught....Don't drink and drive, and don't say things like "I am an excellent driver" and "I've only had a few drinks" in the same paragraph.

Paying extra attention to your impairmants ???did you just say that ??? It is the impairmants the prevent you from paying extra attention...and the impairmants that distort your judgment into thinking you are capable of doing so.

People who make this 'mistake' are not bad people. But those who continue to do this because they 'believe' they know what they are doing are fooling themselves....and if nothing else, taking an incredible risk with their drivers licensce. Getting caught by ride or by some fluke will cost you lots of money.

Do what you will, but "i am a good driver" or "I pay extra careful attention" will never reassure those of us that do not (no longer) drink and drive, so stop trying. Countless statistics have proved otherwise.

I am digging through my boxes to find some reading material (full of recent local and international statistics) about this subject.

Again...not trying to sound (believe it or not) like an angry bitter member of MADD...just trying to point out how many others who have had less fortune in driving after a few drinks that said "I've never had an accident, I'm extra carefull" "I'm still a better driver than ______ is sober "etc etc.

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Originally posted by Beat Blog Errr...no he didn't. You can't get to .08 from two beers.

In this case, you're right. I totally misunderstood his story from start to finish.



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