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| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
ahhhh, now we're getting into the wonderful world of conspiracies. unfortunately yours fails to expand beyond the usual rhetoric you hear from those that like to spit in the face of consensus. |
| quote: | now, considering that climate change is a big BIG problem for all of those that have power (governments and big business) why exactly are they "filtering" the scientific opinion towards a consensus that is the very antithesis of their needs and desires?
i would very much like a concrete argument (as opposed to the generic "evil powerful people controlling our information access") regarding exactly who it is you feel is hi-jacking the global warming debate/evidence, and how they are doing so. |
Big problems have big solutions, no?
Also, the very basis of the "shadow government with secret agendas" thing is completely based on the anonymity of its proprietors. If you knew who was really at the head of it all, it wouldn't be a very effective secret, now would it?
You want me to name names when there exists only a namelessness. In the meanwhile, JEWS AND FEMINISTS.
| quote: | | can i have what you are smoking? scientists are the most capable of evolving their opinions or theories when presented with facts that undermine their thesis. |
Ideally.
A great Scientist would say "I don't know" when confronted with a question that is currently unanswerable. Maybe they would speculate if asked or would feel obligated to find a rational explanation, but in the end, scientists are humans who are trying to deal in a trade that is far above themselves. Chaos ensues.
But yeah, compared to, say, Fundamentalist Christians, scientists tend to be pretty agreeable and able to change their minds. :P
| quote: | | what "alternative methods of thought" are being "destroyed" by the current global warming debate? |
The belief that baby seals are in fact being expelled from God's anus to melt our icecaps from beyond another dimension with their Laser eyes.
| quote: | | what evidence are they intentionally ignoring and who is making it? |
Heh, you ask so many questions that only have answers you are expecting. Maybe you should start asking questions that don't have answers yet. you love scientists so much, why don't you think like them?
| quote: | | indeed, asides from scientific inquiry, what other methods do you see available to us to understand or explain our climate? |
Are you really asking me this? Are you honestly not convinced yet that I am fully aware of what the scientific community's consensus is at this point? Maybe you just want me to say that we should all stay inside and light incense while asking our Ouija boards what to do when the sun shines too much outside? I am not doubtful of the scientific process. And that is not what I have been arguing about. The political polarization and its implications towards fascist logic and control are what interest me. Not because I believe I am being "lied" to at every moment, but because the possibility is, as far as even your precious science might be concerned, not utterly disproved.
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