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pkcRAISTLIN
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quote:
Originally posted by Zild
Tell me specifically what reference you want. And I'll try and find it. Obviously everything I'm saying in the cor is just this man's own opinion. But yeah my family came over from Spain not too long ago, and I'm only second generation American.


oh, im not after anything specific. any link with a something intelligent will be fine.


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Zild
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Cool. I'll try to get that here for you. Give me a day or two. Are you specifically speaking about the extermination of the Ashkenazic vs. Shepardic jews? Or something else?


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Zild
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You do know the inquisition in Spain was definitely meant to exterminate Arabs who had previously controlled all of Spain for hundreds of years. Right?


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Cipha Sounds
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quote:
Originally posted by Enigmatik
I'm sure you don't know the first thing about Islam.

Take the time to read the Koran. You may enjoy it. I am certain you will find it surprising.


A co-worker of mines speaks and reads Arabic(Chaldean decent)fluently and he's filled me in on the Quran. He told me many of the stories of the so called prophet Muhammad and the way the books contradicts itself in so many ways. He finished reading the Quran when he was 31 and he couldn't believe how fucked up it was. I could go on and one with the teachings. Maybe we'll start with Muhammad's sexual relations with his nine year old wife Aisha, or to fight off and kill Allah's opposition unless the "non-believer" decides to convert. Maybe Muhammad claiming he's been through the 7 levels of heaven and met Jesus, Moses and Abraham and claiming that g-d told him that he's to be the final messenger even though his teaching go against the Torah and the Bible.

Hey Akbar, have you heard? our holy one is jamming his dick up some fresh nine year old pussy.

..really? blessings upon him , for he is truly a messenger of g-d.

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Zild
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Seriously. I think that's what she meant by 'you'll be surprised'. But that's just me.


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My ten-foot pole can't quite reach this thread.


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montana
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pkc, what is with you and religious threads, don't you have anything better to do?


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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
i'd like to point out that in my rantings concerning religion, i do not include buddhism in that rant. i know next to nothing about buddhism, mostly because it minds its own business and doesn't seem to cause anybody any strife. ive only ever seen it "fight" for just causes.

Eh, Zen Buddhism was used as an integral part of Japanese militarism and nationalism in Japan's imperial phase up through WWII:

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But Zen [Buddhism] has had strong ties to militarism -- indeed so strong, that the leaders of one of the largest denominations in Japan have remorsefully compared their former religious fanaticism during Japan's brutal expansionism in the 1930's and 40's to today's murderously militant Islamists.

...From its beginnings in Japan, Zen has been associated with the warrior culture established by the early shoguns. But the extent of its involvement in World War II has stayed mostly submerged until recently. Many people in the United States and Europe know Zen's indirect traces through the poetry of the Beats or the quietist aura of contemporary architecture and clothing.

Even John Dower, a Pulitzer Prize-winning historian of modern Japan at M.I.T., whose early interest in Japan was kindled by Zen-inspired architecture, said that Mr. Victoria's works had opened his eyes to ''how Zen violated Buddhism's teachings about compassion and nonviolence.''

...Both of Mr. Victoria's books peel back layers of the career of D. T. Suzuki, who taught at Columbia University in the 1950's and remains the best-known Japanese advocate of Zen in the West. In 1938, however, Mr. Suzuki used his prestige as a scholar in Japan to assert that Zen's ''ascetic tendency'' teaches the Japanese soldier ''that to go straight forward and crush the enemy is all that is necessary for him.''

''What Brian Victoria has written is mostly right,'' said Jiun Kubota, the third patriarch of Sanbo-kyodan, a small Zen group outside Tokyo that has also issued an apology. ''I dare say that Zen was used as the spiritual backbone of the military army and navies during the war.''

...''In Islam, as in the holy wars of Christianity, there is a promise of eternal life,'' Mr. Victoria said in an interview. ''In Zen, there was the promise that there was no difference between life and death, so you really haven't lost anything.''

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pkcRAISTLIN
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Originally posted by montana
pkc, what is with you and religious threads, don't you have anything better to do?


its an interesting topic. and combatting superstition (however pointlessly and lazily) is a worthy cause. and it was a response to the dickhead who came in here crying about us insulting islam.

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Eh, Zen Buddhism was used as an integral part of Japanese militarism and nationalism in Japan's imperial phase up through WWII:


thanks for that! exceptions to every rule i suppose. still, seems like a one-off at one particular place/time in history. ill cut it some slack, just this once!


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