I cant anticipate what I know.

My music satisfaction come from my perfect knowledge of what will be in the near future.

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There's been chart hits for every major genre of dance music, I don't get what the point is here. Trance had For An Angel, Better off alone etc, house had Hands up 4 Detroit, Bodyrox etc.

A wise person once said this about Epic trance/Uplifting trance/Euphoric Trance, Emotional Trance, Pop Trance, Pop Trance, Mc Trance, Euro Trance.

This quote encapsulates this whole thread.

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Epic Trance is the gateway genre into the world of rave for most people, so if you have any form of music to blame for raves hitting the mainstream, this is it. Right here. And that, my friends, really, truly, terribly sucks. There must be a word to describe the pain one feels when witnessing (or hearing, rather) something once pure and brilliant completely sold down the water. Sometime in the mid-90s trance decided to drop the technique of slowly introducing complicated layers and building adequate tension over long stretches, replacing them with cutesy little insta-melodies (Robert Miles may actually be to blame for this). That made it more pop culture accessible. The average attention span, way too ritalin-freaked to pay attention to the slow, brooding trance in its original form, liked the anthemic singalong tone of the NEW McTrance, and that's why all you trance crackers are reading this right now. Not because you grew a taste for this super awesome underground music or you discovered it all by yourself once upon a time. But because trance reformed its sound and delivery to suit YOUR sweet-toothed, top40 pop music consuming tastes. Because the truth is Epic trance is not actually trance, per se. It is powdered, sugar-coated pop schmaltz draped over trance for easy digestion by giggling highschool girls and poser trendy types who would never think to even blink at trance in its raw incarnate. This is the musical equivalent of drowning a meal in ketchup so you can't taste the original flavour anymore.

Unfortunately, this is trance in 2008. The buildup-breakdown formulaic anthem trance, made to sold records to everyone and their 12 year old sister.

There is nothing wrong with wanting to become famous and make money.

What is wrong is to fake being interesting and innovative.

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Originally posted by julien2 A wise person once said this about Epic trance/Uplifting trance/Euphoric Trance, Emotional Trance, Pop Trance, Pop Trance, Mc Trance, Euro Trance. This quote encapsulates this whole thread. Unfortunately, this is trance in 2008. The buildup-breakdown formulaic anthem trance, made to sold records to everyone and their 12 year old sister. There is nothing wrong with wanting to become famous and make money. What is wrong is to fake being interesting and innovative.

Sounds like Ishkur to me, and if I were you, I'd reconsider the wisdom part.

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Originally posted by gizzymcg Then why are you posting on a TRANCE forum? Clown

maybe because my concept of pop is a little different than yours. and almost all trance, with the exception of psy/goa is very commercialized. even some psy/goa is commercialized. in other countries psy/goa is a very popular form of music. many indian movies have a psy/goa club scene. trance produced nowadays is primarily for the clubscene.

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Originally posted by chadi Kind of funny how trance is so often referred to as the "pop" of the bunch, when the reality is that house is far more popular than trance.

true but by definition the song structure of most trance played in clubs is a lot more "pop" than house. most of the house music played in clubs is a lot less melodic than pop and feature a lot less easily memorable elements.

i want to know though...whats the stigma with "pop"? all pop means is the song is able to appeal to many audiances easily. pop does not define the production value. some of the greatest music ever made/produced could be considered pop. almost all classic rock with an exception of a few more obscure artists is rather pop. all led zeppelin songs have a chorus, a melody you can hum, something very memorable. just because that is so doesnt mean that its not some of the greatest music ever recorded. in fact, those things contribute to the greatness of their music.

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Originally posted by gizzymcg Trading insults seems to be common place on here these days. Just giving something back. To say trance is pop music is idiotic. Pop music is music thats in the charts. Not music thats made to play in clubs and make people dance. Honestly some of the things I hear on this forum to slag off trance is as idiotic as the quote I made to the guy earlier.

dude, look at what your saying "Pop music is music thats in the charts. Not music thats made to play in clubs and make people dance." are you telling me there are no dance music charts? do you really think that the number one songs on the dance music charts are number one because how "not pop" they are?

please, broaden your mind a little, think outside the box. pop does not mean just rap and brittney stuf. if your not going to add anything possitive to this discussion then please dont post in this thread.

I really had a good laugh at all this "You have no idea about Trance", "Trance ist pop. No it's not. Yes it is!" discussions. Noobs and wanna-be-elitist are both ridiculous in their own way. But when they meet, hilarity ensues.

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Originally posted by Meat187 I really had a good laugh at all this "You have no idea about Trance", "Trance ist pop. No it's not. Yes it is!" discussions. Noobs and wanna-be-elitist are both ridiculous in their own way. But when they meet, hilarity ensues.

i swear every thread follows that cycle...its getting insanely predictable.

sometimes i dont know why i say shit in this forum. i agree with the previous post.

Well, as far as pop culture in trance goes, I don't even need to leave the (virtual) borders of my motherland to see awfully designed blogs (like this one) run by 16 year old Tiësto fangirls drooling over every single press release that contains his name in it.

I've yet to see similar idiotic madness going on about a house/techno/whatever dj. Trance really has embraced pop more easier than any other EDM genre.

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