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Originally posted by Krypton Stuff that is based in facts.

While fiction does not offer lists of facts, good fiction is still very grounded in reality. You can say plenty of true things about the human experience even if you say them by using characters who never existed and events that never happened.

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles While fiction does not offer lists of facts, good fiction is still very grounded in reality. You can say plenty of true things about the human experience even if you say them by using characters who never existed and events that never happened.

Bingo.

A good work of fiction says more about the human condition than any work of non-fiction ever could. Just because it might do so through metaphor and allegory does not make the truth it contains any less profound.

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Originally posted by Krypton I certainly don't claim to appreciate the arts or creativity much.

what about music, film, etc?

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One of you needs to change avatars. I keep getting you two mixed up.

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Bingo. A good work of fiction says more about the human condition than any work of non-fiction ever could. Just because it might do so through metaphor and allegory does not make the truth it contains any less profound.

Consider how one such as myself thinks. I am an analytical thinker. I don't really have an understanding of metaphors or abstract literary messages. Hell, when I had to read Shakespeare and other works in high school, it was nothing but words to me. I didn't understand anything if the teacher didn't explain it in simple terms. I have nothing against it, but it's just not for me.

I think along clear set lines, which is why math is my fortee, and literature, artistic creativity, abstract symbolism is my weakness.

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what about music, film, etc?

I love music because its something I don't have to think about. Film is great because a lot of times, I can relate to what is on screen. Also, one rarely has to spend time trying to understand the music or film. With paintings, literature, etc., one must spend time trying to understand it, and I am one who rarely understands what an artist means when he paints a picture. I've got Dali paintings all over my house. They look trippy and cool. Beyond that, I have no clue what they mean, nor do I really care. They just look cool to me. It's just a matter of personal tastes...

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Originally posted by Krypton I love music because its something I don't have to think about.

I know what you're trying to say by this but I find it ironic. Speaking as one who is highly analytical as well, my love for music causes me to think but just on a totally different level.

For example, I can't focus/concentrate on anything too complex if certain music is playing... I'm way too distracted.

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov Bingo. A good work of fiction says more about the human condition than any work of non-fiction ever could. Just because it might do so through metaphor and allegory does not make the truth it contains any less profound.

Although I agree with you, unless I’m reading a philosophical novel of some sort (reason why Dostoevsky’s “Notes from the Underground” is among my favourite books), I’d rather watch a film (or a play) instead. That’s why I don’t read fiction as often as I read non-fiction: Most of the time, when I read a book, I feel like someone’s telling me a story, whereas a film makes me feel I’m really an eye-witness. It's much more powerful. Seeing na actor crying is far more real to me than just reading about that a character is in tears.

So, my criticism regarding most novels, is not that they don’t depict reality. They often do. Well, I’m at work now, and I don’t think I can summarise my ideas as quickly as I would like to but, do you know what I mean?

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles One of you needs to change avatars. I keep getting you two mixed up.

i had mine first. it confuses me too!

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