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Originally posted by George Smiley That theory doesn't work tho, because as I said above, any information relating to the practicalities of mounting an attack on US soil are obviously already known to al-Qaida types, because they obviously already have that information

I think they're worried about broadcasting that information to other groups that might be interested in a copy-cat crime or what have you.

I don't really have any questions/criticisms of what happened before 9/11 so much as what happened thereafter - the evacuation of the bin Laden family from US soil without questioning, for instance, seems completely counter-intuitive especially when considering this Administration's later penchant for detaining people interminably on the slightest provocation.

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov I think they're worried about broadcasting that information to other groups that might be interested in a copy-cat crime or what have you.

I'm sorry but that smacks of clutching at straws to defend the government. Those who planned the attacks have every last bit of knowledge about how the attack was carried out. They were not in the planes and therefore it is safe to assume that that information has been widely circulated

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Originally posted by George Smiley I'm sorry but that smacks of clutching at straws to defend the government. Those who planned the attacks have every last bit of knowledge about how the attack was carried out. They were not in the planes and therefore it is safe to assume that that information has been widely circulated

It's consistent with government strategy though. I'm not going to defend this Administration for its actions after 9/11, but I do think they are erring on the side of safety - it is safe to assume that al-Qaeda has the organizational capacity and know-how to launch such an attack, which is why the US is (supposed to be) going after high-ranking al-Qaeda members to eradicate that institutional knowledge. We've been somewhat unsuccessful it is true, but the goal was to isolate and destroy al-Qaeda and their capacity to launch such attacks in the future.

In the meantime, I'm sure the government isn't keen on passing around information on how we were successfully attacked to any groups that might not already know how to best hit us - groups that may not be currently associated with al-Qaeda or may have completely different aims and objectives. In the US we are blessed with a lot of domestic crazies as well that don't have the organization of a transnational terrorist entity but certainly have the desire to bring our government to its knees.

So I'm not saying the government was right persay, but I do see an argument for why they may have blacked some information out.

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Originally posted by George Smiley I'm sorry but that smacks of clutching at straws to defend the government. Those who planned the attacks have every last bit of knowledge about how the attack was carried out. They were not in the planes and therefore it is safe to assume that that information has been widely circulated

while this is undoubtably true, they may, however, not been aware of what aspects of their plan actually succeeded in slipping throught he cracks.

and WTF does "that smacks of clutching at straws" mean /cannuck

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN I have 3 hobbies: gaming, DJing & correcting maladjusted fools on the internet.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Yeah, I’d like to know what horrible, scarring incident in your childhood turned you into such an ignorant, intellectual-hating philistine?

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Originally posted by Lebezniatnikov So I'm not saying the government was right persay, but I do see an argument for why they may have blacked some information out.

But I think we do know that the content of the blacked out relates to Saudi Arabia. That again does not tie into your theory about the US blacking out information that might prove useful to terrorists...

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Originally posted by George Smiley But I think we do know that the content of the blacked out relates to Saudi Arabia. That again does not tie into your theory about the US blacking out information that might prove useful to terrorists...

no one is doubting the fact that the US administration is in bed with the saudi's.... i just hope they get alot of sand in their crotch.....


If anything, the information was blacked out to protect the american - saudi interests because of the saudi government's complacency in dealing with terrorism. Revoking the citizenship of known terrorists does not = stopping their terrorist activities....


either way, i dont think it ammounts to a US backed attack on the twin towers.


PS exactly 6 days and 23 hours from this moment i will be in london on my way to a bar......... and in 16 days and 23 hours i will boarding a plane bound for cannukistan while nursing the worst hangover known to man.....

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN I have 3 hobbies: gaming, DJing & correcting maladjusted fools on the internet.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Yeah, I’d like to know what horrible, scarring incident in your childhood turned you into such an ignorant, intellectual-hating philistine?

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Originally posted by colonelcrisp either way, i dont think it ammounts to a US backed attack on the twin towers.

I'm not saying is does!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by George Smiley I'm not saying is does!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

my point being, it is not going to be the golden bullet that makes the cause of the pocket change followers legitimate.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN I have 3 hobbies: gaming, DJing & correcting maladjusted fools on the internet.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Yeah, I’d like to know what horrible, scarring incident in your childhood turned you into such an ignorant, intellectual-hating philistine?

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Originally posted by colonelcrisp my point being, it is not going to be the golden bullet that makes the cause of the pocket change followers legitimate.

Eh?!

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Originally posted by George Smiley Eh?!

now your speaking my language

What i meant was, even if the blacked out information has to do with un ethical protection of american saudi interests, it wouldnt be the magical bullet the conspiracy nuts are looking for to prove the validity of their bullshit theorys....

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN I have 3 hobbies: gaming, DJing & correcting maladjusted fools on the internet.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Yeah, I’d like to know what horrible, scarring incident in your childhood turned you into such an ignorant, intellectual-hating philistine?

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Originally posted by colonelcrisp now your speaking my language What i meant was, even if the blacked out information has to do with un ethical protection of american saudi interests, it wouldnt be the magical bullet the conspiracy nuts are looking for to prove the validity of their bullshit theorys....

Well that only matters to them, not to me. I am extremely critical of US-Saudi relations, its completely hypocritical and only serves the interests of the mega-rich elite. That they would withold evidence and information about an event that claimed over 3,000 lives to protect their interests from deserved public criticism (that might hamper those interests) only reenforces my view that the relationship with Saudi Arabia is completely wrong

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Originally posted by George Smiley Well that only matters to them, not to me. I am extremely critical of US-Saudi relations, its completely hypocritical and only serves the interests of the mega-rich elite. That they would withold evidence and information about an event that claimed over 3,000 lives to protect their interests from deserved public criticism (that might hamper those interests) only reenforces my view that the relationship with Saudi Arabia is completely wrong

and that sir, i will agree with.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN I have 3 hobbies: gaming, DJing & correcting maladjusted fools on the internet.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Yeah, I’d like to know what horrible, scarring incident in your childhood turned you into such an ignorant, intellectual-hating philistine?