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Originally posted by Q5echo r u saying that Hebollah 2006 was fighting total war? i guess it could be argued they were? don't really know though. Israel never did. my point being, how does claiming that even begin to legitimize their actions?

It was a total war. There was no difference between civilian targets and military targets.

What do you mean Israel never did? There were more Lebanese civilian casualties than Israeli, IDF, and Hezbollah militants combined.

How does total war legitamize Hezbollah actions? Let's see. The IDF invasion...maybe???

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Originally posted by Krypton It was a total war. There was no difference between civilian targets and military targets.

i think you are the one not getting the concept of "total war". look it up, you have the internet.

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What do you mean Israel never did? There were more Lebanese civilian casualties than Israeli, IDF, and Hezbollah militants combined.

why did the Israelis stop at the Litani?

why did Israel not declare a war?

why did the Israelis ony attack infrastructure and government institutions?

ect. ect. ect.

i not debating the general merits of the war just your assertion of "total war"

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How does total war legitamize Hezbollah actions? Let's see. The IDF invasion...maybe???

no, i mean legitimize their using civilians as cover for their artillery.

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Originally posted by Q5echo does this meet that criteria? like almost to the letter, huh? ....youre welcome jerZ07002 EDIT> i know its Hamas in the West Bank and not Hezbollah in Lebanon. just making a point.

thx, i didn't know people were so ignorant to the fact that it actually occurred. It's such an easy tactic for these people to use because they get some reprieve by simply going into a house.

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Originally posted by Krypton What? 1000+ civilian deaths for two kidnapped IDF soldiers? Come on dude... I hope you now understand there is no difference between civilian or combat areas. Total war stipulates they are one in the same, therefore, until you provide a specific instance of Hezbollah using civilian shield tactics, such as putting women and children on the roofs of occupied buildings (like the Taliban do), you are wrong in that assertion.

since it was total war as you claim, then the Lebanese civilian population was a mobilized resource and the killing of those civilians by israel was justified. you clearly don't mean that. perhaps you should understand what total war is before you use the term.

that was not even close to an example of total war. WW1 and 2 are much better examples. In total war, every member of society is expected to provide some support to the war effort. Even if you can somehow twist the meaning of total war to fit your example, it doesn't help because that would make the civilians participants in the military effort.