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david.michael
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cause who would smoke cigarettes anymore if you could smoke weed?


People who are interested in smoking something that alters your state without having to taste alcohol or have hangovers.

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XaNaX
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Our vote doesnt matter. It's just the major companyies who matter.



Right. Honestly I've known several alcoholics and the effect of alcohol on their lives is way worse that pot has been for the few potheads I know. You would be hard pressed to argue that weed is worse for you and/or more dangerous than alcohol. When is the last time you heard about some college freshman who went to a party and got weed poisoning and smoked himself to death from taking to many hits? The only reason alcohol and tobacco are legal and drugs like weed are not is because there are big alcohol and tobacco companies with lots of money to donate to politicians. Shit if Phillip Morris made cocaine instead of cigarettes you can bet your ass that you would be able to walk into the quickie mart today and get an 8ball of Marlboro brand cocaine.

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infinity HiGH
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Noam Chomsky On Marijuana:

Last edited by infinity HiGH on Apr-25-2008 at 17:42

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For the idiots in this thread:

Marijuana is safer than aspirin

When Bayer introduced aspirin in 1899, cannabis was America’s number one painkiller. Until marijuana prohibition began in 1937, the US Pharmacopoeia listed cannabis as the primary medicine for over 100 diseases. Cannabis was such an effective analgesic that the American Medical Association (AMA) argued against prohibition on behalf of medical progress. Since the herb is extremely potent and essentially non-toxic, the AMA considered it a potential wonder drug.

Instead, the invention of aspirin gave birth to the modern pharmaceutical industry and Americans switched away from cannabis in the name of “progress.” But was it really progress? There can be no doubt that aspirin has a long history as the drug of choice for the self-treatment of migraines, arthritis, and other chronic pain. It is cheap and effective. But is it as safe as cannabis?

History:

* Marijuana has been used for over 5,000 years.
* No one has ever overdosed on marijuana.

* Aspirin has been used for 108 years.
* Approximately 500 people die every year by taking aspirin

The Law:

* Marijuana is a Schedule 1 drug, meaning the US government believes it is extremely dangerous, highly addictive, and of no medical value.
* Aspirin is available for pennies and can be purchased by children at any drug, grocery, or convenience store. Often they are just handed out free by people with no medical education.

Marijuana side effects and dangers:

* The dangers of marijuana include possible respiratory problems caused by the deposition of burnt plant material on the lungs. This danger can be eliminated with alternate forms of consumption such as eating or vaporizing the medicine.
* For two to four hours, marijuana causes short-term memory loss, a slight reduction in reaction time, and a reduction in cognitive ability. (It makes you stupid for a little while.)These conditions DO NOT persist after the herb wears off.

* Hunger
* Paranoia
* Depression
* Laughter
* Introspection
* Creative Impulse
* Euphoria
* Tiredness
* Forgetfulness

Aspirin side effects and dangers:

* When taken with alcohol, aspirin can cause stomach bleeding.
* Reye Syndrome in children: fat begins to develop around the liver and other organs of the child, eventually putting severe pressure on the brain. Death is common within a few days.
* People with hemophilia can die.
* People with hyperthyroidism suffer elevated T4 levels.
* Stomach problems include dyspepsia, heartburn, upset stomach, stomach ulcers with gross bleeding, and internal bleeding leading to anemia.
* Dizziness, ringing in the ears, hearing loss, vertigo, vision disturbances, and headaches.
* Heavy sweating
* Irreversible liver damage
* Inflamation and gradual destruction of the kidneys
* Nausea and vomiting
* Abdominal pain
* Lethargy
* Hyperthermia
* Dyspepsia: a gnawing or burning stomach pain accompanied by bloating, heartburn, nausea, vomiting and burping.
* Tachypnea: Abnormally fast breathing
* Respiratory Alkalosis: a condition where the amount of carbon dioxide found in the blood drops to a level below normal range brought on by abnormally fast breathing.
* Cerebral Edema: Water accumulates on the brain. Symptoms include headaches, decreased level of consciousness, loss of eyesight, hallucinations, psychotic behavior, memory loss and coma. If left untreated, it can lead to death.
* Hallucinations, confusion, and seizure.
* Prolonged bleeding after operations or post-trauma for up to 10 days after last aspirin.
* Aspirin can interact with some other drugs, such as diabetes medication. Aspirin changes the way the body handles these drugs and can lead to a drug overdose and death.

If you think that cannabis is actually safer than aspirin, you are not alone. In October 2000, Dr. Leslie Iversen of the Oxford University Department of Pharmacology said the same thing.

In her book, ‘The Science of Marijuana,’ Dr. Iversen presents the scientific evidence that cannabis is, by-and-large, a safe drug. Dr. Iversen found cannabis had “an impressive record” when compared to tobacco, alcohol, or even aspirin.

“Tetrahydrocannabinol is a very safe drug,” she said. “Even such apparently innocuous medicines as aspirin and related steroidal anti-inflammatory compunds are not safe.”

So if safety is your concern, cannabis is clearly a much better choice than aspirin. If you eat it or vaporize it, it just might be the safest painkiller the world has ever known.



Dependence: How difficult it is for the user to quit, the relapse rate, the percentage of people who eventually become dependent, the rating users give their own need for the substance and the degree to which the substance will be used in the face of evidence that it causes harm.

Withdrawal: Presence and severity of characteristic withdrawal symptoms.

Tolerance: How much of the substance is needed to satisfy increasing cravings for it, and the level of stable need that is eventually reached.

Reinforcement: A measure of the substance’s ability, in human and animal tests, to get users to take it again and again, and in preference to other substances.

Intoxication: Though not usually counted as a measure of addiction in itself, the level of intoxication is associated with addiction and increases the personal and social damage a substance may do.

- http://www.onmarijuana.com/2007/03/24/marijuana-is-safer-than-aspirin/

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nchs09
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quote:
Originally posted by infinity HiGH
For the idiots in this thread:

Marijuana is safer than aspirin

When Bayer introduced aspirin in 1899, cannabis was America’s number one painkiller. Until marijuana prohibition began in 1937, the US Pharmacopoeia listed cannabis as the primary medicine for over 100 diseases. Cannabis was such an effective analgesic that the American Medical Association (AMA) argued against prohibition on behalf of medical progress. Since the herb is extremely potent and essentially non-toxic, the AMA considered it a potential wonder drug.

Instead, the invention of aspirin gave birth to the modern pharmaceutical industry and Americans switched away from cannabis in the name of “progress.” But was it really progress? There can be no doubt that aspirin has a long history as the drug of choice for the self-treatment of migraines, arthritis, and other chronic pain. It is cheap and effective. But is it as safe as cannabis?

History:

* Marijuana has been used for over 5,000 years.
* No one has ever overdosed on marijuana.

* Aspirin has been used for 108 years.
* Approximately 500 people die every year by taking aspirin

The Law:

* Marijuana is a Schedule 1 drug, meaning the US government believes it is extremely dangerous, highly addictive, and of no medical value.
* Aspirin is available for pennies and can be purchased by children at any drug, grocery, or convenience store. Often they are just handed out free by people with no medical education.

Marijuana side effects and dangers:

* The dangers of marijuana include possible respiratory problems caused by the deposition of burnt plant material on the lungs. This danger can be eliminated with alternate forms of consumption such as eating or vaporizing the medicine.
* For two to four hours, marijuana causes short-term memory loss, a slight reduction in reaction time, and a reduction in cognitive ability. (It makes you stupid for a little while.)These conditions DO NOT persist after the herb wears off.

* Hunger
* Paranoia
* Depression
* Laughter
* Introspection
* Creative Impulse
* Euphoria
* Tiredness
* Forgetfulness

Aspirin side effects and dangers:

* When taken with alcohol, aspirin can cause stomach bleeding.
* Reye Syndrome in children: fat begins to develop around the liver and other organs of the child, eventually putting severe pressure on the brain. Death is common within a few days.
* People with hemophilia can die.
* People with hyperthyroidism suffer elevated T4 levels.
* Stomach problems include dyspepsia, heartburn, upset stomach, stomach ulcers with gross bleeding, and internal bleeding leading to anemia.
* Dizziness, ringing in the ears, hearing loss, vertigo, vision disturbances, and headaches.
* Heavy sweating
* Irreversible liver damage
* Inflamation and gradual destruction of the kidneys
* Nausea and vomiting
* Abdominal pain
* Lethargy
* Hyperthermia
* Dyspepsia: a gnawing or burning stomach pain accompanied by bloating, heartburn, nausea, vomiting and burping.
* Tachypnea: Abnormally fast breathing
* Respiratory Alkalosis: a condition where the amount of carbon dioxide found in the blood drops to a level below normal range brought on by abnormally fast breathing.
* Cerebral Edema: Water accumulates on the brain. Symptoms include headaches, decreased level of consciousness, loss of eyesight, hallucinations, psychotic behavior, memory loss and coma. If left untreated, it can lead to death.
* Hallucinations, confusion, and seizure.
* Prolonged bleeding after operations or post-trauma for up to 10 days after last aspirin.
* Aspirin can interact with some other drugs, such as diabetes medication. Aspirin changes the way the body handles these drugs and can lead to a drug overdose and death.

If you think that cannabis is actually safer than aspirin, you are not alone. In October 2000, Dr. Leslie Iversen of the Oxford University Department of Pharmacology said the same thing.

In her book, ‘The Science of Marijuana,’ Dr. Iversen presents the scientific evidence that cannabis is, by-and-large, a safe drug. Dr. Iversen found cannabis had “an impressive record” when compared to tobacco, alcohol, or even aspirin.

“Tetrahydrocannabinol is a very safe drug,” she said. “Even such apparently innocuous medicines as aspirin and related steroidal anti-inflammatory compunds are not safe.”

So if safety is your concern, cannabis is clearly a much better choice than aspirin. If you eat it or vaporize it, it just might be the safest painkiller the world has ever known.



Dependence: How difficult it is for the user to quit, the relapse rate, the percentage of people who eventually become dependent, the rating users give their own need for the substance and the degree to which the substance will be used in the face of evidence that it causes harm.

Withdrawal: Presence and severity of characteristic withdrawal symptoms.

Tolerance: How much of the substance is needed to satisfy increasing cravings for it, and the level of stable need that is eventually reached.

Reinforcement: A measure of the substance’s ability, in human and animal tests, to get users to take it again and again, and in preference to other substances.

Intoxication: Though not usually counted as a measure of addiction in itself, the level of intoxication is associated with addiction and increases the personal and social damage a substance may do.

- http://www.onmarijuana.com/2007/03/...r-than-aspirin/
dependence on caffein is that high? are you serious? mmmm.... something smells fishy.


I drink a cup of joe every day but sometimes i go for weeks becuase i dont have time or simply forget. Have been doing this since i was 10 or so, i don't feel dependent, actually i know i am not dependent.


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Gen3r4l1ty
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quote:
Originally posted by nchs09
dependence on caffein is that high? are you serious? mmmm.... something smells fishy.


I drink a cup of joe every day but sometimes i go for weeks becuase i dont have time or simply forget. Have been doing this since i was 10 or so, i don't feel dependent, actually i know i am not dependent.


No, it's unfortunately very true. You may need more than a cup a day before you really start getting addicted though... I average around 3-7 daily for the last 10 years, and am a real piece when I dont get my morning jolt. If I miss the whole day, I'll have a splitting headache by dinner time.


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the idiots the idiots

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infinity HiGH
groovin



Registered: Oct 2001
Location: west side T.O

quote:
Originally posted by nchs09
dependence on caffein is that high? are you serious? mmmm.... something smells fishy.


I drink a cup of joe every day but sometimes i go for weeks becuase i dont have time or simply forget. Have been doing this since i was 10 or so, i don't feel dependent, actually i know i am not dependent.


Maybe you're a special exception cause I know people that turn into the meanest sons of bitches if they don't get their coffee fix. It's pathetic.

Stupid "crack"heads

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KiNeTiC ENeRgY
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Location: Boca Raton

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Originally posted by Gen3r4l1ty
No, it's unfortunately very true. You may need more than a cup a day before you really start getting addicted though... I average around 3-7 daily for the last 10 years, and am a real piece when I dont get my morning jolt. If I miss the whole day, I'll have a splitting headache by dinner time.


I dunno, I don't think its having an actual addiction to caffeine, but its more of a routine that one develops thats the addiction. In this case, waking up and brewing a cup of coffee, then get dressed, yada yada. I was a huge soda drinker for years and thought it was due to the caffeine, but I cleaned up my diet and really haven't craved any. I drink water, and I pop a caffeine pill only when I'm tired.

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