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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J It's what happened in Europe and every American seems envious.

<------- Not envious.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J It's what happened in Europe and every American seems envious.

Exactly. Underground scenes like dubstep and grime are still seeping into the mainstream to some extent. Wiley's at #4 on the Beeb charts right now. This can happen in Europe because we're more socialized, and our population density allows people to get together and do their thing without corporations getting involved.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Ever heard of the Second Summer of Love? When an underground scene spreads, it becomes a youth culture movement. Eventually it will be commercialised and become part of the mainstream lexicon. Then its trendiness will expire and it will fall into a middle ground.

Not in America. Only a select few scenes are commercialized that start in the Underground, mostly Rock or Hip Hop scenes. Like in the past few years the San Francisco hyphy, the ATL crunk, and the South's (St. Louis) chopped and screwed scene.

House and Techno are still very much underground uncommercialized in America. Los Angeles being a huge metropolitan area only has one semi-mainstream EDM music station, which also plays other genres like Jazz and Funk and has EDM slots, its called KCRW 89.9, most of my friends dont know much about it, personally I dont listen to it. On the all in one music playing stations, Top charts hardly ever have EDM music in them. EDM music makes a bigger splash in small segments of TV shows like 24 and CSI.

The EDM scene is basically the clubs, coachella and electric daisy carnival type open air events, or indoor massives, and huge new years events. Its not the European scene, but its healthy scene, we get some of the best DJ's in the world coming through from every major Techno and House DJ from Satoshi, Howells, Tenaglia, you can name to the bigger DJ's Sasha,Digweed,PvD,Armin,Ferry, Tiesto's for 2-3 day stints at one club or Arena, he'll be here June 4th,5th, and 6th. We've also been getting every major minimal techno DJ you can name for the past year. Events are spread between 8-10 different clubs every week in just the LA area, and then there is OC, San Diego, San Francisco, so we have a thriving EDM scene even though we have very little mainstream media attention, the appetite is definately there and growing. But for now you kinda have to be into the music, know someone in the scene, or look for it to get into it. I started going to EDM clubs by myself when I first got into EDM for example, found them through TranceAddict 7-8 years ago.

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Originally posted by LionsLair Not in America.

Yes, because very few of them spread out. As I said.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Yes, because very few of them spread out. As I said.

Yah basically Derrick May, Jeff Mills, Carl Craig : Detroit Techno and Frankie Knuckles, Dj Sneak : Chicago House House, and to an extent New York House.

Last edited by LionsLair on May-03-2008 at 16:07

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Originally posted by LionsLair Not in America. Only a select few scenes are commercialized that start in the Underground, mostly Rock or Hip Hop scenes. Like in the past few years the San Francisco hyphy, the ATL crunk, and the South's (St. Louis) chopped and screwed scene. House and Techno are still very much underground uncommercialized in America. Los Angeles being a huge metropolitan area only has one semi-mainstream EDM music station, which also plays other genres like Jazz and Funk and has EDM slots, its called KCRW 89.9, most of my friends dont know much about it, personally I dont listen to it. On the all in one music playing stations, Top charts hardly ever have EDM music in them. EDM music makes a bigger splash in small segments of TV shows like 24 and CSI. The EDM scene is basically the clubs, coachella and electric daisy carnival type open air events, or indoor massives, and huge new years events. Its not the European scene, but its healthy scene, we get some of the best DJ's in the world coming through from every major Techno and House DJ from Satoshi, Howells, Tenaglia, you can name to the bigger DJ's Sasha,Digweed,PvD,Armin,Ferry, Tiesto's for 2-3 day stints at one club or Arena, he'll be here June 4th,5th, and 6th. We've also been getting every major minimal techno DJ you can name for the past year. Events are spread between 8-10 different clubs every week in just the LA area, and then there is OC, San Diego, San Francisco, so we have a thriving EDM scene even though we have very little mainstream media attention, the appetite is definately there and growing. But for now you kinda have to be into the music, know someone in the scene, or look for it to get into it. I started going to EDM clubs by myself when I first got into EDM for example, found them through TranceAddict 7-8 years ago.

Eeesh, you've clearly never partied in europe or seen what goes on over there on a weekly basis.

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Originally posted by ******** Seplling don't demonstrate intelligence and educatoin - knowing does.

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Originally posted by LionsLair Yah basically Derrick May, Jeff Mills, Carl Craig : Detroit Techno and Frankie Knuckles, Dj Sneak : Chicago House House, and to an extent New York House.

Those spread out because Europeans visited those places, or the originators visited Europe.

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Originally posted by LionsLair Yah basically Derrick May, Jeff Mills, Carl Craig : Detroit Techno and Frankie Knuckles, Dj Sneak : Chicago House House, and to an extent New York House.

You can't name many genres like that from Europe, can you? The closest you get is Swedish House or Italo House- scenes the size of countries.

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> DI.FM 26th Anniversary Guest Mix [Progressive House]
> Live @ Dance:Love:Hub London, 11.10.2025
> Higher Peaks [Progressive House]
> Dance:Love:Hub Afterparty (The Return) 23.11.24

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